"Smoking Pipe" law goes into effect July 1, 2010, state-wide

[sheclown]

2010 Legislature             CS for CS for SB 366, 1st Engrossed
       
           
       
             
                                                              2010366er
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    2         An act relating to retail sales of smoking pipes and
    3         smoking devices; creating s. 569.0073, F.S.;
    4         prohibiting retail sales of certain smoking pipes and
    5         smoking devices under certain circumstances;
    6         specifying criteria for the lawful sales of such
    7         items; providing a criminal penalty for unlawful sales
    8         of such items; providing an effective date.
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   10  Be It Enacted by the Legislature of the State of Florida:
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   12         Section 1. Section 569.0073, Florida Statutes, is created
   13  to read:
   14         569.0073 Special provisions; smoking pipes and smoking
   15  devices.â€"
   16         (1) It is unlawful for any person to offer for sale at
   17  retail any of the items listed in subsection (2) unless such
   18  person:
   19         (a) Has a retail tobacco products dealer permit under s.
   20  569.003. The provisions of this chapter apply to any person that
   21  offers for retail sale any of the items listed in subsection
   22  (2); and
   23         (b)1. Derives at least 75 percent of its annual gross
   24  revenues from the retail sale of cigarettes, cigars, and other
   25  tobacco products; or
   26         2. Derives no more than 25 percent of its annual gross
   27  revenues from the retail sale of the items listed in subsection
   28  (2).
   29         (2) The following smoking pipes and smoking devices are
   30  subject to the provisions of this section:
   31         (a) Metal, wooden, acrylic, glass, stone, plastic, or
   32  ceramic smoking pipes, with or without screens, permanent
   33  screens, or punctured metal bowls.
   34         (b) Water pipes.
   35         (c) Carburetion tubes and devices.
   36         (d) Chamber pipes.
   37         (e) Carburetor pipes.
   38         (f) Electric pipes.
   39         (g) Air-driven pipes.
   40         (h) Chillums.
   41         (i) Bongs.
   42         (j) Ice pipes or chillers.
   43         (3) Any person who violates this section commits a
   44  misdemeanor of the first degree, punishable as provided in s.
   45  775.082 or s. 775.083.
   46         Section 2. This act shall take effect July 1, 2010.

[KuroiKetsunoHana]

i'm not good with legalese, so i could be mistaken...but it looks like this would essentially outlaw hookahs?  what?

[BridgeTroll]

Next on the agenda... "marital aids" and naughty movies...

[KuroiKetsunoHana]

srsly, this is bleeding ridiculous--and a new tobacco shop just opened up in riverside, too--i hope this won't put them under before they've properly got started.

[sheclown]

(a) Metal, wooden, acrylic, glass, stone, plastic, or
   32  ceramic smoking pipes, with or without screens, permanent
   33  screens, or punctured metal bowls.
   34         (b) Water pipes.
   35         (c) Carburetion tubes and devices.
   36         (d) Chamber pipes.
   37         (e) Carburetor pipes.
   38         (f) Electric pipes.
   39         (g) Air-driven pipes.
   40         (h) Chillums.
   41         (i) Bongs.
   42         (j) Ice pipes or chillers.

Tobacco shops ought to benefit from this, actually.  They will be the only ones legally allowed to sell the pipes listed above.  

(a) Has a retail tobacco products dealer permit under s.
  20  569.003. The provisions of this chapter apply to any person that
  21  offers for retail sale any of the items listed in subsection
  22  (2); and
  23         (b)1. Derives at least 75 percent of its annual gross
  24  revenues from the retail sale of cigarettes, cigars, and other
  25  tobacco products; or

Convenience stores will no longer be able to sell these items.

[Burn to Shine]

They'd better outlaw soda and beer cans from convenient stores too lest someone poke a hole in one....   

[sheclown]

They'd better outlaw soda and beer cans from convenient stores too lest someone poke a hole in one....  

I was thinking the same thing.  The middle class crack smokers will suffer.   The poor already know how to make do.

[Jaxson]

My prediction: There will be a lot more people asking, "What the $%#$ happened to the antenna on my car?!"

[Timkin]

Bloody ridiculous .. !  seriously.

[soxfan]

They'll need to outlaw soda bottles, soda cans, tin foil, paper towel and toilet paper rolls, and remove apples, pears, mangoes, melons, lemons, limes, and many other types of fruits and vegetables from the stores. In my youth, I've made pipes from all of these various items. Are they going to ban cigars too. For Christ's sake, LEGALIZE IT!!!!! There are many other countries that have already legalized many different types of drugs and the outcome is actually LOWER percentages of drug abusers/users.. You take the "cool factor" out of it, and people stop using it...

[sheclown]

They'll need to outlaw soda bottles, soda cans, tin foil, paper towel and toilet paper rolls, and remove apples, pears, mangoes, melons, lemons, limes, and many other types of fruits and vegetables from the stores. In my youth, I've made pipes from all of these various items. Are they going to ban cigars too. For Christ's sake, LEGALIZE IT!!!!! There are many other countries that have already legalized many different types of drugs and the outcome is actually LOWER percentages of drug abusers/users.. You take the "cool factor" out of it, and people stop using it...

In essence, they did "legalize" it.  By making it legal for tobacco shops to sell "smoking pipes", retail sales of these articles will be licensed and regulated. 

It's a good news/bad news situation for consumer groups who oppose the sale of these items. 

The good news is that corner convenience stores will break the law by selling "crack pipes."  The bad news is that tobacco stores can open anywhere a retail store can and legally sell these items and more.

[Timkin]

They'll need to outlaw soda bottles, soda cans, tin foil, paper towel and toilet paper rolls, and remove apples, pears, mangoes, melons, lemons, limes, and many other types of fruits and vegetables from the stores. In my youth, I've made pipes from all of these various items. Are they going to ban cigars too. For Christ's sake, LEGALIZE IT!!!!! There are many other countries that have already legalized many different types of drugs and the outcome is actually LOWER percentages of drug abusers/users.. You take the "cool factor" out of it, and people stop using it...

In essence, they did "legalize" it.  By making it legal for tobacco shops to sell "smoking pipes", retail sales of these articles will be licensed and regulated.  

It's a good news/bad news situation for consumer groups who oppose the sale of these items.  

The good news is that corner convenience stores will break the law by selling "crack pipes."  The bad news is that tobacco stores can open anywhere a retail store can and legally sell these items and more.

 you actually make a good point , this coupled with the enormous tax base that could be obtained from the revenues generated...

Here are a few of the reasons  I personally think it will not happen anytime soon in Florida..

A.  Unless it were governed with the same laws as driving under the influence, which it should,  There would be the loss of court fines, attorneys fees , fines in general, of possession of... The loss of these revenues from law enforcement , and attorneys who represent these folks that get busted, would probably make both really upset.   Just as making renewable marriage licenses every year would eliminate most divorce.... The attorneys would have a poo poo fit !!

B.  There would probably be those that  would want to still grow their own .

C.  Many, including the some religious folks , consider it  a sin.  

D.  Many still consider Weed a "gateway" drug..

 
So I seriously doubt we will see it "legalized"  anytime soon... POSSIBLY Medically allowed but I am not betting on that either.   At the very best we might see posession of a very small amount decriminalized, but I am not even banking on that.  

Just my 2 cents ( as usual,  no retail value )  

[Jaxson]

@sheclown --- what about those tacky little 'rose vases' that no self-respecting woman would accept from a man, but would make a great crack stem for those crackies?

[sheclown]

@Jaxson:

(a) Metal, wooden, acrylic, glass, stone, plastic, or
   32  ceramic smoking pipes, with or without screens, permanent
   33  screens, or punctured metal bowls.
   34         (b) Water pipes.
   35         (c) Carburetion tubes and devices.
   36         (d) Chamber pipes.
   37         (e) Carburetor pipes.
   38         (f) Electric pipes.
   39         (g) Air-driven pipes.
   40         (h) Chillums.
   41         (i) Bongs.
   42         (j) Ice pipes or chillers.

I don't see the rose vases on here, so I guess they are okay.

[sheclown]

@Timkin

(3) Any person who violates this section commits a
   44  misdemeanor of the first degree, punishable as provided in s.
   45  775.082 or s. 775.083.

According to the new law.