Unions and what they are doing to our country

Started by mtraininjax, May 14, 2010, 05:16:11 PM

Jaxson

@JC --- It is true that labor unions are mostly Democrat.  Based on the way elections go in our city and state, it doesn't look like the Republicans are in any danger.  Well, of course, our current mayor chose to curry favor with the unions when he first ran for office.  Now, the unions are suddenly an obstacle to financial stability and the mayor is a martyr?  Really?!   
John Louis Meeks, Jr.

JC


JC

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Quote from: Jaxson on May 26, 2010, 06:36:29 AM
@JC --- It is true that labor unions are mostly Democrat.  Based on the way elections go in our city and state, it doesn't look like the Republicans are in any danger.  Well, of course, our current mayor chose to curry favor with the unions when he first ran for office.  Now, the unions are suddenly an obstacle to financial stability and the mayor is a martyr?  Really?!    

I just dont see a problem with a group of individuals who have a common interests (a living wage and good benefits) choosing to vote as a block to affect an election one way or the other, seems pretty democratic to me.  I dont think its any different than the tea party getting together sharing ideas (often disinformation) and influencing elections as a group.  

urbanlibertarian

Oakland Pot Club Says Union, Yes

"At a ceremony hosted by Oakland City Council's Rebecca Kaplan, 100 employees at medical marijuana dispensary and education hub Oaksterdam University turned in their membership cards to join the United Food and Commercial Workers Union, Local 5.

It may well be the first union pot shop in the country, if not the world.

While it will help employees collectively bargain and resolve disputes with management, it also gives owner Richard Lee political allies with labor organizations.

Lee is responsible for the Tax Cannabis 2010 ballot measure, which would decriminalize recreational use of cannabis, which polls suggest has neatly divided California voters."

Whole article here: http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/politics/Oakland-Pot-Club-Says-Union-Yes-jw-95052719.html
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danno

Quote from: urbanlibertarian on May 28, 2010, 07:30:02 PM
Oakland Pot Club Says Union, Yes

"At a ceremony hosted by Oakland City Council's Rebecca Kaplan, 100 employees at medical marijuana dispensary and education hub Oaksterdam University turned in their membership cards to join the United Food and Commercial Workers Union, Local 5.

It may well be the first union pot shop in the country, if not the world.

While it will help employees collectively bargain and resolve disputes with management, it also gives owner Richard Lee political allies with labor organizations.

Lee is responsible for the Tax Cannabis 2010 ballot measure, which would decriminalize recreational use of cannabis, which polls suggest has neatly divided California voters."

Whole article here: http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/politics/Oakland-Pot-Club-Says-Union-Yes-jw-95052719.html

Look for the union label.


Dog Walker

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Quote from: whitey on May 25, 2010, 10:38:47 PM
Quote from: JC on May 25, 2010, 10:23:38 PM
Quote from: whitey on May 25, 2010, 10:19:55 PM
Quote from: JC on May 25, 2010, 10:01:07 PM
Quote from: whitey on May 25, 2010, 09:59:28 PM
I have typed 4 short sentences in this thread and already stephendare has my whole view of unions all figured out. How does he do it?  He is so foolish wise

Please, prove him wrong.  I would love to hear your interpretation on the necessity of WORKERS TO ORGANIZE in order to collectively bargain against well organized corporations for livelihood, insurance and benefits.  Please tell us! 
Corporations?  I am against public unions, I could care less about private unions except when their benefits are dumped onto the backs of taxpayers.

So civil service workers do not have the right to collectively bargain? 
Collectively bargain, lol

Where is the bargaining happening?  Give us what we demand or our members will vote you out of office.

Congratulations. You've just described every special interest group from the Tea Party to government unions.

Jaxson

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Let's not forget corporate interests.  They want to influence politicians, so the corporations spend hefty sums on lobbyists.  Forget welfare for a moment, corporate welfare and handouts are at the foundation of our political system, according to many and we must advocate for more government freebies in our 'free enterprise' system.  And, if the lobbying does not work, the corporations work super duper hard to unseat those awful politicians who will not do the bidding of big business. 

This is what puzzles me about the Tea Party.  They rail against the excesses of Big Government, but have nothing to say about the corrupting influences of Big Business.  The Tea Partiers do not mind going after 'union bosses' and 'welfare queens,' but tend to cower in the presence of the corporations that truly seek to run our nation...
John Louis Meeks, Jr.

JeffreyS

I am still hopeful that the Tea Party may mature into something useful for America.  Right now they are the sky is falling environmentalists of the 70s who won't back a deliberate long term 30 year approach.  So just like the 70s group people have started tuning their we have to slash and burn now message out.  We could be a diversified energy independent country if energy activists in the 70s had sold the approach we could have bought back then.  We can solve our financial problems without European Austerity if we can take a reasonable approach now.
Lenny Smash

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Jaxson

John Louis Meeks, Jr.

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Dog Walker

The Germans have an even more descriptive word for them; it translates to "ass antlers".
When all else fails hug the dog.