Unions and what they are doing to our country

[whitey]

Oh those wonderful gov't unions

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/21/business/economy/21pension.html?ref=nyregion

[Jaxson]

I do not get how today's populists even are able to refer to themselves as such.  The true populists,  back in the day, held equal contempt for the government and for the corporations.  They did not agree with a government by oligarchy.  Today's so-called populists seem to be doing the dirty work for corporations to run things in Washington. 

[JC]

Oh those wonderful gov't unions

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/21/business/economy/21pension.html?ref=nyregion

See this is a classic example of someone taking SOME fraud and painting an ENTIRE organization with the same BROAD brush.  The very nature of capitalism is to take advantage of everyone and everything while pushing the legal envelope to the edge and sometimes pushing right past it.  How about "those cops put their lives on the line" and "they deserve so much more for protecting us" you know what most of those cops did for overtime post 9/11? 

If someone committed fraud, they should be treated the same way walls street fraudster bankers were treated! 

[BridgeTroll]

See this is a classic example of someone taking SOME fraud and painting an ENTIRE organization with the same BROAD brush.

NOBODY does THAT here...

[JC]

See this is a classic example of someone taking SOME fraud and painting an ENTIRE organization with the same BROAD brush.

NOBODY does THAT here...

Another useful reply!

[BridgeTroll]

Exactly!  Very similar to yours...  You are... inspiring!

[whitey]

Oh those wonderful gov't unions

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/21/business/economy/21pension.html?ref=nyregion

See this is a classic example of someone taking SOME fraud and painting an ENTIRE organization with the same BROAD brush.  The very nature of capitalism is to take advantage of everyone and everything while pushing the legal envelope to the edge and sometimes pushing right past it.  How about "those cops put their lives on the line" and "they deserve so much more for protecting us" you know what most of those cops did for overtime post 9/11?  

If someone committed fraud, they should be treated the same way walls street fraudster bankers were treated!  

Some fraud?  You can find cases like this everywhere in every gov't union.  And we all get to pay for it

[JC]

Oh those wonderful gov't unions

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/21/business/economy/21pension.html?ref=nyregion

See this is a classic example of someone taking SOME fraud and painting an ENTIRE organization with the same BROAD brush.  The very nature of capitalism is to take advantage of everyone and everything while pushing the legal envelope to the edge and sometimes pushing right past it.  How about "those cops put their lives on the line" and "they deserve so much more for protecting us" you know what most of those cops did for overtime post 9/11? 

If someone committed fraud, they should be treated the same way walls street fraudster bankers were treated! 

Some fraud?  You can find cases like this everywhere in every gov't union.  And we all get to pay for it

LOL doing it again!

[whitey]

I have typed 4 short sentences in this thread and already stephendare has my whole view of unions all figured out. How does he do it?  He is so foolish wise

[JC]

I have typed 4 short sentences in this thread and already stephendare has my whole view of unions all figured out. How does he do it?  He is so foolish wise

Please, prove him wrong.  I would love to hear your interpretation on the necessity of WORKERS TO ORGANIZE in order to collectively bargain against well organized corporations for livelihood, insurance and benefits.  Please tell us! 

[whitey]

I have typed 4 short sentences in this thread and already stephendare has my whole view of unions all figured out. How does he do it?  He is so foolish wise

Please, prove him wrong.  I would love to hear your interpretation on the necessity of WORKERS TO ORGANIZE in order to collectively bargain against well organized corporations for livelihood, insurance and benefits.  Please tell us! 

Corporations?  I am against public unions, I could care less about private unions except when their benefits are dumped onto the backs of taxpayers.

[JC]

I have typed 4 short sentences in this thread and already stephendare has my whole view of unions all figured out. How does he do it?  He is so foolish wise

Please, prove him wrong.  I would love to hear your interpretation on the necessity of WORKERS TO ORGANIZE in order to collectively bargain against well organized corporations for livelihood, insurance and benefits.  Please tell us! 

Corporations?  I am against public unions, I could care less about private unions except when their benefits are dumped onto the backs of taxpayers.

So civil service workers do not have the right to collectively bargain? 

[whitey]

I have typed 4 short sentences in this thread and already stephendare has my whole view of unions all figured out. How does he do it?  He is so foolish wise

Please, prove him wrong.  I would love to hear your interpretation on the necessity of WORKERS TO ORGANIZE in order to collectively bargain against well organized corporations for livelihood, insurance and benefits.  Please tell us! 

Corporations?  I am against public unions, I could care less about private unions except when their benefits are dumped onto the backs of taxpayers.

So civil service workers do not have the right to collectively bargain? 

Collectively bargain, lol

Where is the bargaining happening?  Give us what we demand or our members will vote you out of office.

[JC]

I have typed 4 short sentences in this thread and already stephendare has my whole view of unions all figured out. How does he do it?  He is so foolish wise

Please, prove him wrong.  I would love to hear your interpretation on the necessity of WORKERS TO ORGANIZE in order to collectively bargain against well organized corporations for livelihood, insurance and benefits.  Please tell us! 

Corporations?  I am against public unions, I could care less about private unions except when their benefits are dumped onto the backs of taxpayers.

So civil service workers do not have the right to collectively bargain? 

Collectively bargain, lol

Where is the bargaining happening?  Give us what we demand or our members will vote you out of office.

Please explain this statement a little better to me.

[whitey]

JC, the fine SEIU member at the 0:45 mark can explain it a lot better than I can

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSh7WUK1GDc