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Rick Scott for Governor?

Started by copperfiend, May 06, 2010, 11:41:21 AM

cityimrov

Whatever happened to Bud Chiles?

buckethead

Interesting, but any pure ideology is tyrannical when applied as an absolute. I'm not surprised you are opposed to libertarian ideals.

finehoe

Quote from: buckethead on August 25, 2010, 04:43:38 PM
I'm not surprised you are opposed to libertarian ideals.

Ideals, maybe, but not all of their ideas.

CS Foltz

Therein lies the problem with any political philosophy when crouched in" absolute"  terms! Idea's can come from anywhere and should be viewed with a jaundiced eye!

tufsu1


cityimrov

#80
I heard this as hearsay from someone so I haven't verified this.  

Several years ago, France elected a very smart socialist for President.  This president, during his tenure, he implemented some of the most conservative and libertarian laws during his tenure.  Why?  Is he a sell out?  During that time - France was heading toward bankruptcy due to various social programs overburdening the government.  This President figured out that whatever France was doing before didn't work.  So he figured out something which worked.  By figuring out what worked, he saved France from financial collapse.  

I think his name was Mitterrand and this story isn't verified by me as true but the idea behind it makes sense to me.  

If I was a conservative, I would want a smart genuine honorable liberal as my leader.  If I was a liberal,  I would want a smart genuine honorable conservative as my leader.  Why?  Because true, real smart people realize when their ideas aren't working!!  They change minds on those ideas and try to find out what actually works to fix the problem!

Miss Fixit

Quote from: buckethead on August 25, 2010, 09:34:32 AM
This registered R has decided a vote for Rick Scott is out of the question. The alternatives weren't too appealing either.

Alex Sink seems to be a bit of an insider as well, but I guess I need to do some research.

Buckethead, check her out and you may be surprised.  She's a fiscal conservative with impressive business experience/expertise who never held or ran for public office before her successful campaign to become Florida's Chief Financial Officer.  I believe she'll take Florida in the right direction and I know a lot of prominent Republicans who agree.

She also has a very interesting family history.....I certainly hope she'll join her relatives in the Guiness Book as first female governor of Florida!

Ocklawaha

Don't despair y'all, if SCOTT get's elected I've got family at Avianca and can easily arrange a charter flight to Bogota, Medellin or Cartegena. Let me know if you might be interested in Ocklawaha's Ark.


OCKLAWAHA

stjr

I am still trying to figure out one substantive thing to come from Rick Scott's mouth.  He is selling fluff and it shows how much of our electorate is seduced by overly simplistic thinking.  Separately, we live in a global economy and there isn't much any governor of Florida can do to influence what happens in this state job-wise when faced with a tsunami recession created by factors beyond the State's control.  Any candidate who promises to deliver significant jobs is overselling their powers.

The good thing is that only about 6 to 8%, at best, of all registered voters actually voted this guy into the GOP nomination.  That means up to 90+% may still deny him the job.  We can only hope.

Those who may not be inclined to support a Democrat still need to consider what damage Scott can do to this state if elected and at least consider a defensive vote to keep him out of office.  YOUR VOTE DOES COUNT.  Failure to use it is to let your fellow (and maybe less informed) voters decide for you.  While none of the options may be optimal, we still have a responsibility to pick the best option available.
Hey!  Whatever happened to just plain ol' COMMON SENSE!!

jandar

Could we setup a voting system where we don't have to vote for anyone if we do not like the candidates, but instead of our vote not counting, we could add a negative vote to 1 candidate?


vicupstate

A governor absolutely CAN affect economic development and jobs.  SC Governor Carroll Campbell wrote the deal that landed the BMW plant on a napkin while entertaining the BMW Chairman at the Governor's Mansion pool. He was deeply involved in every detail of the process that landed that palnt and several others.  Today that plant employs 5,500 and it's suppliers employ about 25,000. 

Without BMW there would be not be an ICAR campus devoted to Auto Research.  It is still in the early stages, but already boasts about 700 jobs, with several more projects in the pipeline, even in this  recession .  The average wages at ICAR are about 400% of the area average.   

Governors can also bring a state a bad name (ie Mark Sanford, Blago).

 
"The problem with quotes on the internet is you can never be certain they're authentic." - Abraham Lincoln

urbanlibertarian

Quote from: jandar on August 26, 2010, 08:38:08 AM
Could we setup a voting system where we don't have to vote for anyone if we do not like the candidates, but instead of our vote not counting, we could add a negative vote to 1 candidate?


Voters should be able to choose "None of the above" and if "None of the above" gets the most votes the election should be done over again with different candidates.
Sed quis custodiet ipsos cutodes (Who watches the watchmen?)

urbanlibertarian

Quote from: finehoe on August 25, 2010, 04:41:32 PM
"Libertarianism is basically the Marxism of the Right. If Marxism is the delusion that one can run society purely on altruism and collectivism, then libertarianism is the mirror-image delusion that one can run it purely on selfishness and individualism." -Robert Locke, The American Conservative

http://www.amconmag.com/article/2005/mar/14/00017/
This shows the woeful inadequacy of the linear political spectrum which has Marxism on the extreme left and fascism on the extreme right.  Draw a third axis from the center of that line with anarchy at the extreme end and libertarians would be somewhere along it.
Sed quis custodiet ipsos cutodes (Who watches the watchmen?)

vicupstate

Quote from: urbanlibertarian on August 26, 2010, 06:43:09 PM
Quote from: jandar on August 26, 2010, 08:38:08 AM
Could we setup a voting system where we don't have to vote for anyone if we do not like the candidates, but instead of our vote not counting, we could add a negative vote to 1 candidate?


Voters should be able to choose "None of the above" and if "None of the above" gets the most votes the election should be done over again with different candidates.

Nevada has had this in place for many years.  I don't think 'None of These' has ever won though. 
"The problem with quotes on the internet is you can never be certain they're authentic." - Abraham Lincoln

CS Foltz

It is too bad "Write In's" are not allowed! If enough votes were counted for Mickey Mouse/none of the above......it would be nice to have another election...........but when you have the choice between a cup cake or a slice of pie............where is the choice?