First Coast Tax Day Tea Party

[BridgeTroll]

But...But...talk to those people JC.  We have been assured that they are all nincompoops, boobs, maroons, and RACISTS!   Surely when you talk to them their true colors will show.  Their grammar MUST be horrible!

Nope grammar is fine too. Nothing to report really.  I don't support their overall position but what I am seeing is not what I've been seeing on the tv.  

Our locals (at the other events that Ive covered) tend to be nicer, more sincere and more intelligent than the national rabble, thats true.  Last time we went to a tea party event at the landing, the people were very nice and a credit to the rest of the movement.

It is great to hear that OUR Tea Parties are better than THEIR Tea Parties.  Perhaps they nice and sincere and intelligent at the other rallies also with a few standout idiots being highlighted for media consumption.  This is probably closer to the truth than the thought that the Jacksonville folks are more civil than the national "rabble".

[DeadGirlsDontDance]

The Department of Education was created by the Department of Education Organization Act (Public Law 96-88), which was signed into law by President Jimmy Carter on October 17, 1979 and began operating on May 16, 1980.

The full text of the law can be accessed as a PDF file here-
http://www.eric.ed.gov/ERICDocs/data/ericdocs2sql/content_storage_01/0000019b/80/33/08/c6.pdf

And you're right about desegregation in the 70's, Dog Walker, because the schools here in Jacksonville desegregated around when I started first grade in 1972, or possibly the year before. I don't remember for sure, I was only five years old at the time. I didn't take an active interest in politics until about nine years later.

[BridgeTroll]

 

Jacksonvillians tend to be a civil lot, when off the highways.

True enough!

[DeadGirlsDontDance]

But...But...talk to those people JC.  We have been assured that they are all nincompoops, boobs, maroons, and RACISTS!   Surely when you talk to them their true colors will show.  Their grammar MUST be horrible!

Nope grammar is fine too. Nothing to report really.  I don't support their overall position but what I am seeing is not what I've been seeing on the tv.  

Our locals (at the other events that Ive covered) tend to be nicer, more sincere and more intelligent than the national rabble, thats true.  Last time we went to a tea party event at the landing, the people were very nice and a credit to the rest of the movement.

It is great to hear that OUR Tea Parties are better than THEIR Tea Parties.  Perhaps they nice and sincere and intelligent at the other rallies also with a few standout idiots being highlighted for media consumption.  This is probably closer to the truth than the thought that the Jacksonville folks are more civil than the national "rabble".

There was also a cute girl at OUR Tea Party protesting being emotionally traumatized by having to explain teabagging to her parents.

[BridgeTroll]

 

Yet more diversity...

[DeadGirlsDontDance]

Isn't she adorable? She looks like a snarky goth Alicia Silverstone.

[BridgeTroll]

Absolutely!

[Dog Walker]

Its actually more valuable to have the point of view of an educator like your wife's, Dogwalker. 

I cannot say that I know very much about the actual programming of the department of education, so it would be nice to get a grip around the department, just for civic purposes.  But I doubt that she thinks that its existence violates the Constitution.

Right on both counts, Stephen.  Like you I am far more troubled by the Constitutionality of the Iraq War than by the Dept. of Ed or the Tea Tasting Board.  (I wonder what the Tea Party people would think about the Federal Tea Tasting Board if it still existed?)

I was pinging you for a rhetorical flourish taken too far;  something we all do from time to time. 

[BridgeTroll]

Like you I am far more troubled by the Constitutionality of the Iraq War

You mean this one?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_Resolution

Passage
An authorization by Congress was sought by President George W. Bush soon after his September 12, 2002 statement before the U.N. General Assembly asking for quick action by the Security Council in enforcing the resolutions against Iraq.[4][5]

Of the legislation introduced by Congress in response to the President Bush's requests[6], S.J.Res. 45 sponsored by Sen. Daschle & Sen. Lott was based on the original White House proposal authorizing the use of force in Iraq, H.J.Res. 114 sponsored by Rep. Hastert & Rep. Gephardt and the substantially similar S.J.Res. 46 sponsored by Sen. Lieberman were modified proposals. H.J.Res. 110 sponsored by Rep. Hastings was a separate proposal never considered on the floor. Eventually, the Hastert-Gephardt proposal became the primary legislation that Congress began to focus working on.

Introduced in Congress on October 2, 2002 in conjunction with the Administration's proposals[2][7], H.J.Res. 114 passed the House of Representatives on Thursday afternoon at 3:05 p.m. EDT on October 10, 2002 by a vote of 296-133,[8] and passed the Senate after midnight early Friday morning at 12:50 a.m. EDT on October 11, 2002 by a vote of 77-23.[9] It was signed into law as Pub.L. 107-243 by President Bush on October 16, 2002.

United States House of Representatives

Party Ayes Nays PRES No Vote
Republican 215 6 0 2
Democratic 82 126 0 1
Independent 0 1 0 0
TOTALS 297 133 0 3

126 (61%) of 208 Democratic Representatives voted against the resolution.
6 of 223 Republican Representatives voted against the resolution: Reps. Duncan (R-TN), Hostettler (R-IN), Houghton (R-NY), Leach (R-IA), Morella (R-MD), Paul (R-TX).
The only Independent Representative voted against the resolution: Rep. Sanders (I-VT)
Reps. Ortiz (D-TX), Roukema (R-NJ), and Stump (R-AZ) did not vote on the resolution.
United States Senate

Party Ayes Nays No Vote
Republican 48 1 0
Democratic 29 21 0
Independent 0 1 0
TOTALS 77 23 0

21 (42%) of 50 Democratic Senators voted against the resolution: Sens. Akaka (D-HI), Bingaman (D-NM), Boxer (D-CA), Byrd (D-WV), Conrad (D-ND), Corzine (D-NJ), Dayton (D-MN), Durbin (D-IL), Feingold (D-WI), Graham (D-FL), Inouye (D-HI), Kennedy (D-MA), Leahy (D-VT), Levin (D-MI), Mikulski (D-MD), Murray (D-WA), Reed (D-RI), Sarbanes (D-MD), Stabenow (D-MI), Wellstone (D-MN), Wyden (D-OR).
1 of 49 Republican Senators voted against the resolution: Sen. Chafee (R-RI).
The only Independent Senator voted against the resoution: Sen. Jeffords (I-VT)

[Dog Walker]

Just because they pass a law doesn't mean it's Constitutional.  Has the Supreme Court refused to hear a case regarding the legality of the war yet?

I don't know enough about the legalities of war powers granted to the government to have any sort of informed opinion, but the whole presumed preemptive strike thing on Iraq makes me uneasy as a precedent.

[BridgeTroll]

Just because they pass a law doesn't mean it's Constitutional.

I think that was someones point a couple pages ago...

[Dog Walker]

Well a good point bears repeating!  (and I need to cover up that I hadn't read the beginning of the thread.  LOL!)

[DeadGirlsDontDance]

Well a good point bears repeating!  (and I need to cover up that I hadn't read the beginning of the thread.  LOL!)

And that proves you're a good sport. Don't feel too bad, I don't remember the very beginning of the thread and don't really want to re-read it. I think it's just somebody saying they planned to take some pictures.

[JC]

I am not big on taking photos of signs but this one cracked me up!

[Sportmotor]

I like your avatar pic JC lol