First Coast Tax Day Tea Party

[DeadGirlsDontDance]

Racist, sexist, homophobe. That's how those who dissent against "progressive" nonsense are described. So be it.

heaven forbid that anyone actually be racist, sexist or homophobic, right?

I guess that would require some proof.  Like badly spelled signs carried around in public?

It's racist to point out that somebody's being racist, you know.

But PLEASE, somebody tell me, WHAT exactly is this "progressive nonsense" being dissented against? Paved roads? Meat inspectors? OSHA? What?

It is not racist to point out racism. It is slander to call opposition to a certain policy racist where there is no evidence of such.

And would the evidence be the presence of racist signs?


founder of the tea party

That guy is a registered Democrat plant.

Prove it. Oh, wait, don't bother trying. His name is Dale Robertson, and he's a Tea Party activist who operates the website TeaParty.org. In all fairness, he did get kicked out of the event where he was waving his niggar sign, and the damning photo was taken over a year ago, but I sincerely doubt he's magically ceased to be a bigot since then.

http://washingtonindependent.com/73036/n-word-sign-dogs-would-be-tea-party-leader

[JC]

Racist, sexist, homophobe. That's how those who dissent against "progressive" nonsense are described. So be it.

Again, a straw man!

What was your intent when you made a value judgment regarding physical appearance of a woman you are having a political discussion with?  Never mind, don't bother answering it because there is no justification, simply put, you were being sexist when you did what you did.  I am not surprised you don't understand why you are being sexist....  

But that is the type of shit I am talking about when I make generalizations about racist construction workers.  Sorry, but if you look over your shoulder before you make a joke at the expense of someone not like you, you are a racist!  If you wouldn't "let" your daughter "date one" you are racist and sexist!  You might not stand on the corner yelling nigger, but you are still racist!  

[DeadGirlsDontDance]

If you think I'm making stuff up, feel free to post factual corrections.

Here's a quick, easy read on what the Tea Party wants:

http://www.cnn.com/2010/OPINION/04/15/dennis.tea.party.goals/index.html

I'm not a Tea Partier nor am I a Republican/Right Winger. But wanting our elected officials to be more fiscally responsible instead of continuing to drive our country further and further into debt while at the same time continuing to raise taxes, well, it isn't such a bad idea.

I read the article, and they really ARE against meat inspectors! That was a good guess, but I was actually attempting to be absurd. They are also against clean air, education, and anything that benefits poor people.

Seriously?!?  That's what you came away with.  

You fail at critical thinking.

Wrong.

Fine. In detail, what I came away with was this:

The teabaggers want to get rid of the Department of Education. The Department of Education formulates federal funding programs for education.

I doubt their glee over abolishing ED would last more than a nanosecond after all schools become private, and they find out they have to pay THEIR OWN actual money to get their snot-dripping hellspawn into school and out of the house during the day. Oh, and tuition would surely cost a hell of a lot more than the tax break any individual would get from eliminating the Education Department. I guess if they don't want to pay tuition, these people with no grasp of grammar, spelling or history could just homeschool the wretched beasts, thus perpetuating the cycle of brain-curdling stoopid.

The teabaggers want to get rid of the USDA. To oversimplify again: They're against meat inspectors. Obviously, that's not all the United States Department of Agriculture does, but one of their more important functions is trying to prevent our food supply from killing us in spectacularly gruesome ways. Personally, I'd rather not die of brain rot from a contaminated meatball.

Oh, and they want to get rid of the EPA, which I oversimplified as saying they're against clean air, which is is not entirely correct. It really means they're against clean air, clean water, non-toxic soil, and fuel-efficient cars. Oh, and they want it to be legal to randomly dump toxic waste anywhere, or at least that's what it seems like, since one of the EPA's main jobs is attempting to prevent industries from poisoning everybody to death. They're doing a poor job of it the last few years, but that's because the Bush administration took away the EPA's shitkicking boots, making it difficult for them to enforce the environmental protection laws.

The teabaggers say send responsibility for these functions to the individual states, but where the hell do they think the states are going to get the money from? And do they have any idea what an insane tangle of conflicting laws about education, food safety and environmental regulations we would have from state to state?

Just the conflicts between food safety regs could strangle interstate commerce, unless you just chucked all the rules out, and just let the food industry sell us any kind of filthy, mutated, contaminated garbage they want, disguised and labeled as food. Do the teabaggers think the food companies are going to spend the extra money it costs to ensure our safety out of the kindness of their hearts?

Next, they want to eliminate all social services to illegal immigrants, and drastically reduce welfare and unemployment benefits for poor citizens. This would be those poor people I was talking about, and it's such an enormous problem that I'm not going to attempt to address it here.  I will say that I don't think the answer is kicking people when they're down, and hoping they die quickly if they get sick.

The teabag dude also says the federal government can't do anything efficiently. Hmm. I guess being able to drop a birthday card into a box on the East coast and have it delivered to your sister on the West coast in less than three days, for less than fifty cents is the very height of incompetence.

So, why don't we get rid of the U.S. Postal Service, while we're at it? And the FDA! If we get rid of the FDA, then the drug companies can sell untested drugs and just use EVERYBODY as guinea pigs, instead of doing controlled studies! It'll cut costs, and medication will be cheaper, if they work and if you survive the non-clinical trials.

Ooh, ooh, and instead of sending out Census workers, we should send out people to administer the Citizenship exam that foreigners have to take to become naturalized citizens! Anybody who fails the test gets their citizenship revoked, they get deported, and the Census won't have to count them!

[buckethead]

Racist, sexist, homophobe. That's how those who dissent against "progressive" nonsense are described. So be it.

Again, a straw man!

What was your intent when you made a value judgment regarding physical appearance of a woman you are having a political discussion with?  Never mind, don't bother answering it because there is no justification, simply put, you were being sexist when you did what you did.  I am not surprised you don't understand why you are being sexist....  

But that is the type of shit I am talking about when I make generalizations about racist construction workers.  Sorry, but if you look over your shoulder before you make a joke at the expense of someone not like you, you are a racist!  If you wouldn't "let" your daughter "date one" you are racist and sexist!  You might not stand on the corner yelling nigger, but you are still racist!  

Clearly there is no refutation of any substantive point made by myself nor the main platform of the tea party. Just shrieking and name calling. Typical female... How's that for sexist?

[DeadGirlsDontDance]

Clearly there is no refutation of any substantive point made by myself nor the main platform of the tea party.

So, you apparently didn't bother reading my point-by-point criticism of the more egregiously stupid parts of the teabagger "platform" that I posted several minutes before you resumed making sexist remarks?

[buckethead]

Well if I'm going to be accused of being a racist sexist homophobe, what the heck?

You point by point diatribe was so riddled with vitriol and lacking any resemblance to rationality, I see no point in debating it.

I do enjoy reading most of your posts, though. I must confess I did not make it through your most recent.

[JMac]

http://houstontps.org/?p=1050

A Note on Dale Robertson, self-described “tea party leader”
Wednesday, January 6, 2010
By Felicia Cravens

In response to questions we have received regarding Dale Robertson and his involvement with HoustonTPS, and specifically in reference to his attendance at our rally on 27 Feb 2009, we would like to state that:



1.  He is NOT a member of our Leadership team.

2.  He owns a website with which we have never been affiliated.

3.  He has never been a part of organizing any of the Tea Party rallies in the Houston area, or any other area that we can find.

4.  We addressed some issues involving him back in April.  Here it is on our website, where Mr. Robertson himself comments:  http://houstontps.org/?p=318

5.  We do not choose to associate with people that use his type of disgusting language.



A search on Google yields plenty of information about Mr. Robertson, and a search of the various leadership teams among legitimate national tea party organizations show him nowhere to be found.

This entry was posted on Wednesday, January 6th, 2010 at 6:47 pm and is filed under Uncategorized. You can follow any responses to this entry through the RSS 2.0 feed.

[finehoe]

But wanting our elected officials to be more fiscally responsible instead of continuing to drive our country further and further into debt while at the same time continuing to raise taxes, well, it isn't such a bad idea.

So where were they when Bush was turning a $128b surplus into $490b deficit?  Why weren't they protesting then?

[redglittercoffin]

It would help the world tremendously if the world were full of StephenDare's.  Everyone would be suuuuuuper smart and compassionate.

...if only.

We can only dream. 

In the meantime Stephen, show me where the DOE is mandated by Constitution...

[NotNow]

I think that we all can read, and determine what is "Constitutional", thank you. Part of the political argument going on here is that many Americans believe that the Federal Judiciary has disregarded the literal word of the Constitution as well as the intent as described by its authors in their written dispatches of the day in favor of expansion of Federal power.  

[redglittercoffin]

Nope.  I made the claim.  You challenged it.  The challenger must provide the evidence. 

Of course, if you weren't acting like a petulant child, you just would have done it on your first post to me. 

[redglittercoffin]

I think that we all can read, and determine what is "Constitutional", thank you.

Well Im sure you think that.  Along with all the other interesting things you think as well.

I do not share this observation, as we still require courts helmed by people way above our educational attainments to determine matters of Constitutionality, which kind of makes this statement as absurd as anything else ive ever heard said, but hey.....

Jesus Christ, really?!?!?!  this is what you've got?  Honestly, Stephen.  You must not live in a house with mirrors.  You cannot look at yourself and really believe half the sh*t you type and say.  

I really must have hit home with the comment you deleted.  

[DavidWilliams]

And yet even more puffery...

[NotNow]

You see, what "I" think counts just as much as what "you" think.  I know that you do not share this observation as well.  And although those that "helm the courts" may be "way above my educational attainment", that does not mean that I must suffer their ideology.  It doesn't take a law degree to read.  And my "educational attainment"  prompts my critical thinking and leads me to question how the largest, most indebted government in the history of the world was derived from the U S Constitution.

To determine otherwise strikes me as "absurd".

[NotNow]

Hmm, kind of hard to have a conversation when only one guy gets to talk.