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protest at military funeral

Started by samiam, March 13, 2010, 12:43:46 PM

samiam

This is just wrong. No one should be allowed to use the death of one of our service member to further there agenda no matter what it is !

http://www.sunherald.com/2010/03/08/2008717/court-to-rule-in-military-funeral.html

urbanlibertarian

I agree with your first statement but disagree with your second.  I find the opinions and actions of Rev. Phelps and his followers to be wrong, disrespectful of others and repulsive.  However I think it's a bad thing for government to shut people up no matter how offensive their views are or how they express themselves.  These protesters do more damage to their cause by the methods they use than could be done by locking them up.
Sed quis custodiet ipsos cutodes (Who watches the watchmen?)

Springfielder

I also find it disgusting and disrespectful and IMO, the furthest from what Christianity is all about. These sick bastards know they have our constitution protecting their right to protest, just as the KKK have marches or gatherings. I personally find that behavior and mindset sickening, but that's what this country is based upon, and freedom of speech is part of it.

Trust me, these sickos never get close enough to the families of our fallen heroes, there's the Patriot Guard Riders, the Rolling Thunder and other groups that ensure that the families are well protected and shielded from such hateful and IMO, un-Godly words.


sean

If god hates fags so much I wonder what he thinks of a group of inbreed,  screw loose lawyers....
9000 Years Old!

JeffreyS

Quote from: urbanlibertarian on March 13, 2010, 05:28:28 PM
I agree with your first statement but disagree with your second.  I find the opinions and actions of Rev. Phelps and his followers to be wrong, disrespectful of others and repulsive.  However I think it's a bad thing for government to shut people up no matter how offensive their views are or how they express themselves.  These protesters do more damage to their cause by the methods they use than could be done by locking them up.
People have the right to assemble in public funerals are private. They have plenty of opportunity to express their views in our society and should not be denied that. The right to express your views does not mean that someone else can'thave an event that is not about expressing your views.
Lenny Smash

BridgeTroll

I agree Jeffery...  Their right to protest would not be curtailed.  They could protest just as easily in some other place.  Private occasions and venues can and should exclude these people.
In a boat at sea one of the men began to bore a hole in the bottom of the boat. On being remonstrating with, he answered, "I am only boring under my own seat." "Yes," said his companions, "but when the sea rushes in we shall all be drowned with you."

buckethead

Gonna go with the unpopular stance here and say that so long as they were on public property, not inciting violence and not defacing or destroying public or private property, they have the right to protest as they wish.

They are misinterpreting scriptures IMO, and making a spectacle of themselves. (in the worst possible way)


Jesus was a radical. He protested against the self righteous for the sake of the sinner. These folks seem to miss that plain and simple truth.

Ocklawaha

As both an old hippie and a disabled veteran, I'd suggest allowing them to invoke the same law of protection afforded the abortion clinics, where the protesters are widely separated from their intended victims.

Either that of just shoot the cowardly bastards, whichever comes first!


OCKLAWAHA

Springfielder

Quote from: JeffreySPeople have the right to assemble in public funerals are private. They have plenty of opportunity to express their views in our society and should not be denied that. The right to express your views does not mean that someone else can'thave an event that is not about expressing your views.
The funeral service is private, but these morons aren't attending the service, they stand outside with their signs of hatred and words that go against the very God they profess to speak on behalf of.

As I said, the problem is, they know the law and are well within it. They generally stand across the street from where the funeral is being held. So they are not violating the law or trespassing on private property. The good part is, most times they never show up, but they sure did get their hateful message out...and that's what they're after.


Sportmotor

#9
There have been protests here in Jax on atleast 2 of my friend's service.

They push the limit of people's tolerance of them, we all nearly came to fists one occassion, the police sided with us, and admited the presence of them was for the safty of those dooshbags.

I have no problem with someone dissagreeing with me, or the war. Dont come into a funeral were people are in morning and are dealing with the loss of a loved one and come screaming hatefull messages and blantly trying to start something. It doesnt help there argument

Id personally like to skin every single one of those people alive, very slowly.
I am the Sheep Dog.

Springfielder

I totally agree about these morons, and as a Patriot Guard Riders, I've dealt with them. I just feel that hateful people like that will ultimately pay for what they do and say to innocent people such as the family and friends who are suffering the loss of a loved one.


buckethead

Quote from: Sportmotor on March 14, 2010, 07:29:30 PM
There have been protests here in Jax on atleast 2 of my friend's service.

They push the limit of people's tolerance of them, we all nearly came to fists one occassion, the police sided with us, and admited the presence of them was for the safty of those dooshbags.

I have no problem with someone dissagreeing with me, or the war. Dont come into a funeral were people are in morning and are dealing with the loss of a loved one and come screaming hatefull messages and blantly trying to start something. It doesnt help there argument

Id personally like to skin every single one of those people alive, very slowly.
I'm not sure I would go so far as to skin anyone alive, but I agree that serious confrontation is in order.

Sportmotor

Quote from: buckethead on March 14, 2010, 08:12:45 PM
I'm not sure I would go so far as to skin anyone alive, but I agree that serious confrontation is in order.


Lose a friend and have his mother in your arms in tears when these people come and shout nothing but hate and disrespect to her, her son, and the rest of the family.
The urge to inflict as much pain possible upon those people is near blinding.
I am the Sheep Dog.

buckethead


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