Businesses closing all around and ...we have this...

[cline]

Just as they say, "Ignorance of the law is no excuse."

And I personally think that those signs scattered all over the medians are hideous and need to remain outlawed.

Agreed.  It probably would have been nice to give the guy a warning but whatever.  At least the sign is down.  Those things are really tacky. 

[Overstreet]

Don't be so quick to move to another county. St Johns County and Clay County have sign ordinances too.

They also have tree ordinances that tell a business that if they have a qualified specimen tree they cannot cut it down without a permit. Most businesses then find they need a landscape architect or civil Engineer to do the required drawings.  A Chinese restaurant to be owner cut down three large oak trees in the parking lot of the old mandarin medical center, where a inside Atlantic Storage now stands. He was cited and fined a large amount. The fines are related to DBH caliper dimensions.  It was somewhere in the $50,000 range. He never opened the business.  Trees are not such a problem downtown.

It might be a good idea to spend some time in the codes. This might help.

http://www.municode.com/Library/Library.aspx

[mtraininjax]

When I saw this, I was like you have to be kidding me? wth??? The City has way more important issues to be dealing with.

Well what are the 6000 other employees in the city doing then? Answer me that one! Code enforcement has a job to do and they do it well, enforce the laws, just as the JSO enforces speed at the top of the JTB/Belfort overpass (as they did today writing tickets to motorists who claimed, "Officer, honestly, I wasn't speeding, your laser device is incorrect"), or as the RAP nazis patrol Riverside and Avondale looking for rule breakers, hey, all of the city employees have their gig and they need work.

The sign ordinances in Clay and St. Johns are no where near as restrictive as that in Jax. I've seen the same business in St. Augustine going out of business for almost an entire year. In Jax, you only have a limited amount of time to hang that banner, where as it seems perpetual in other counties.

[ONESTOP THRIFTSHOP]

I am challenging all Business Owners and the community to come to the Murray Hill Preservation Association  Meeting at the Murray Hill Library on Edgewood Ave S at 6:30 pm. on Monday April 12.
This includes you Mayor Peyton and City Council Members.

Come and see what is happening in our community in the City of Jacksonville. 

I have a business in the Murray Hill area and we are not making the revenue to keep our doors open. We are not aloud to put our signs out on the city right of way to direct traffic to Our Store.

Construction on Post Street has been going on for awhile and the traffic is being redirected through a neighborhood that takes the traffic back to Edgewood Ave S.

The City Ordinances Division came to our Store on March 18th and gave us a Citation Warning and advised that we need to take our signs and banners down and get permits.  Since we have taken the signs down our business has went down 95%. Only some of our regular customers come in and hardly any new customers.

Permits and Zoning Departments giving us a run around.

If the signs on the City Right Way is a Traffic Safety Hazard to traffic then the Signs on the Buildings are too.  For instance someone slowing down in traffic to look for a name of a business could cause a major accident.

We invited Mayor Peyton and Councilman Michael Corrigan out to our store and neither of them has not even attempted to come.

I have called multiple times to Councilman Michael Corrigan's office and all I get is the secretary that is doing his dirty work for him.
I also have call the Mayor's office multiple times and can't even get him to call back.

I emailed the Mayor and it took him a week to get back to me and he is referring me over to the Chief of the Municipal Code Compliance Division to investigate this issue.

Unemployment at 12.2 % in Duval County   State of Florida at 9.7% nationally.
Some of the City Employees are going to loose there jobs. Businesses closing everyday. That means that the Unemployment rate is going up again.   
Crime rate is going up everyday.  Why is this happening?  Because the politicians in Duval County is not listening to the community and doing something about it.

So everyone let's stand up for our rights. And let the Politicians here us.
If this meeting does not do this then Let's go to City Hall  and Pickett them

[reednavy]

I still think this is bullsh*t because you can't have a small sign on your own property, but other places pay people to stand on sidewalks or medians twirling signs and/or waving to traffic. Those are more of a risk IMO.

[Sportmotor]

I still think this is bullsh*t because you can't have a small sign on your own property, but other places pay people to stand on sidewalks or medians twirling signs and/or waving to traffic. Those are more of a risk IMO.

The people are more of a risk I agree :/ Esspically when they get in your line of sight.

[Ernest Street]

Yea especially the Dicks Wings sandwich signs.   ("I prefer Dicks over Hooters)

Methinks Sportmotor is a "Deathrace 2000" fan (who isnt?)

[Cricket]

I still think this is bullsh*t because you can't have a small sign on your own property, but other places pay people to stand on sidewalks or medians twirling signs and/or waving to traffic. Those are more of a risk IMO.

I get your point but the sidewalk twirlers and people waving to traffic are no more hazardous than a few half-naked girls bareing their breasts outside a whorehouse. The hazard is when you go inside. The responsibility is yours, eyes straight, keep driving.

But I do feel that the signs should come down. They have nothing to do with a hazard. It's all about conforming to ordinances. But a fine right off the bat? Ridiculous!

[Sportmotor]

Yea especially the Dicks Wings sandwich signs.   ("I prefer Dicks over Hooters)

Methinks Sportmotor is a "Deathrace 2000" fan (who isnt?)

Why Ernest, how did you guess?

[reednavy]

I get your point but the sidewalk twirlers and people waving to traffic are no more hazardous than a few half-naked girls bareing their breasts outside a whorehouse. The hazard is when you go inside. The responsibility is yours, eyes straight, keep driving.

But I do feel that the signs should come down. They have nothing to do with a hazard. It's all about conforming to ordinances. But a fine right off the bat? Ridiculous!

Hey, leave the hoes and whores alone!

[9a is my backyard]

I still think this is bullsh*t because you can't have a small sign on your own property, but other places pay people to stand on sidewalks or medians twirling signs and/or waving to traffic. Those are more of a risk IMO.

Trust me, the college kids and homeless who take the $8-10/hr to stand outside and wave those signs LOVE this ordinance  

[Cricket]

[Hey, leave the hoes and whores alone!

... now that is one business that ain't about to close.

[Ernest Street]

I swear to you the person holding the "Dicks Wings" sign at the Lakewood location was dressed like a Redneck.
Unfortunately when my friend and I drove past him we had his 11 year old in the back seat and we had to maintain composure... 

[sheclown]

OneStop:  It would be helpful if you could lobby for a change... allowing banners or other signage and then contacting your CM and asking him to sponsor such an ordinance.  We have the same problem at our thrift store on Main Street.  People come in and say "we didn't know you were here!" 

It is tough out there.  Construction doesn't help one bit.

[ONESTOP THRIFTSHOP]

i went to the City Council Townhall Meeting last night at Florida State Community College at Kent Campus, which was a budget meeting. . Richard Clark president of the City Council stated to me in the lobby of the auditorium that the signage ordinances will be enforced even harder on everyone. The council will not change the ordinances unless us business owners stand up against them as a group.

NEWS CONFERENCE

APRIL 14 WEDNESDAY

TIME 11 AM

LOCATION: ONE STOP THRIFT SHOP AT 3644 POST STREET JUST EAST OF EDGEWOOD AVE S. 904-388-9199  OR MY CELL 904-562-8939

I AM CHALLENGING ALL BUSINESS OWNERS AND RESIDENTS TO ATTEND THIS CONFERENCE AND BACK US BUSINESS OWNERS UP.


Questions:
1. Why are businesses closing?
2. Why is Unemployment at at 12.2 % in Duval County and 9.7 % in the State of Florida?
3. Why is the Crime Rate at it's highest in Duval County?

I invited the City Council Members to the News Conference and my feeling from them that I am a joke to them. But guess what I am very serious to keep businesses like mine open and CHANGES NEEDS TO BE MADE.

MAYOR PEYTON also is invited but I feel that he will not come either.

Come all and support your local small business owners.

IF THIS DOES NOT WORK THEN I WILL GO TO CITY HALL WITH MY SIGN  AND WALK  IN FRONT OF CITY HALL WHERE THE MAYORS' AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS OFFICES ARE.