The SPARlisted Convenience Stores

[fsu813]

Open question to the moderator(s):

Since the BP on 8th & Liberty is rarley brought up in SPAR meetings, both general or board, and is regularly brought up in SHADCO meetings (virtually every single time), shouldn't the title be ....

"Re: The SHADCOlisted Convenience Stores"

?

Seems infinitely more appropriate since this has little to do with SPAR and a lot to do with SHADCO.

I know it wouldn't generate nearly as much traffic for the site, but it would be far more accurate.

[CS Foltz]

You guys need a new organization..........why don't you call it "Blunt"?

[strider]

When discussing this issue, whether it be the Liberty BP, the old Sizemore's, 8th and Market, ETC., SPAR Council is in the mix and often when speaking to the actual store owners, Louise DeSpain is almost always in forefront and a part of the issue.

Uptowngirl:  I know for a fact he does not want anything to do with SPAR because before he even opened he was harassed.

Just one comment pulled from this thread.

Like I posted before.  Doug V is involved and involved through SHADCO. SHADCO will be much more fair than SPAR Council in dealing with this issue.  I do not see Doug V putting out “Red Alerts”.  I do not see SHADCO telling people not to use this store.  If the police are telling people that and using petty issues like this owner won’t trespass someone we can’t arrest for drug dealing as the reason, shame on them.   

I am betting that Doug V and SHADCO is the better person and organization and will indeed do right by both this store and the entire community.  I can’t say the same for SPAR Council based on the past track record.

The title seems indeed appropriate.

[fsu813]

Perhaps you should attend a Shadco meeting before guessing what is discussed in them.

Anyone that was at the last meeting would know some of your assumptions & inferences are incorrect.

[strider]

strider: I am betting that Doug V and SHADCO is the better person and organization and will indeed do right by both this store and the entire community.  I can’t say the same for SPAR Council based on the past track record.

FSU813: Anyone that was at the last meeting would know some of your assumptions & inferences are incorrect.

Well, FSU813, I have attended SHADCO meetings, but you are right that I did not attend the last one. I wanted to attend but something came up.  I have heard the police say things and make complaints at SHADCO meetings that I felt were incorrect, even people in attendance have done so, but not the organization nor Doug V.  My dealings with Doug V has always shown him to be someone who is fair but also can be strict in a sense.  He has shown me that he would rather have the real truth than just believe what is said or implied. He is also someone that is more than willing to change his views given the right information. I stand behind my belief that what I said in my post is true. That he and SHADCO will indeed treat this issue fairly. I hope for Springfield’s sake I am right in my assessment and you are wrong.

[Springfielder]

I have heard the police say things and make complaints at SHADCO meetings that I felt were incorrect, even people in attendance have done so, but not the organization nor Doug V.  My dealings with Doug V has always shown him to be someone who is fair but also can be strict in a sense.  He has shown me that he would rather have the real truth than just believe what is said or implied. He is also someone that is more than willing to change his views given the right information. I stand behind my belief that what I said in my post is true. That he and SHADCO will indeed treat this issue fairly. I hope for Springfield’s sake I am right in my assessment and you are wrong.

You're absolutely right, Doug is indeed a fair man. He stands behind what he says, and is more than willing to listen to both sides...and if he was wrong, he'll admit that. I also agree that between he and SHADCO, there's more of a realistic and honest approach to matters of concerns, and not just bullying someone.

[nvrenuf]

So I take it that StenoDave, Uptown Girl (and her infamous pink lady) and Stephen Dare did not meet up at 2am for the Tour de Crime?

Since I was in need of some Vit D and too lazy to get in my car and head to Publix, I made a purchase at the Speedway in Hamsterdam (Hampsterdam). I also complimented him on how nice it looked, well-lit, thanked him for keeping it clean and picking up trash in his lot and also for not letting people loiter. He gave me a look like it was strange that I thanked him and said "of course, you have to do those things." I couldn't agree more.

[fsu813]

If you want to know how Doug feels about the BP, just ask him.

[strider]

Just for the record, FSU813, it isn't whether he likes the store, it is about being fair.  Not sure why you keep trying to imply otherwise.

Also for the record, those of you who do not like this store would be very lucky to add up to 3% of the stores volume, so not using the store won't even be missed.  It is much better to make your presence known rather than be a missing customer that isn't even missed.

Otherwise, see Springfielder's post above.

[uptowngirl]

I have heard the police say things and make complaints at SHADCO meetings that I felt were incorrect, even people in attendance have done so, but not the organization nor Doug V.  My dealings with Doug V has always shown him to be someone who is fair but also can be strict in a sense.  He has shown me that he would rather have the real truth than just believe what is said or implied. He is also someone that is more than willing to change his views given the right information. I stand behind my belief that what I said in my post is true. That he and SHADCO will indeed treat this issue fairly. I hope for Springfield’s sake I am right in my assessment and you are wrong.

You're absolutely right, Doug is indeed a fair man. He stands behind what he says, and is more than willing to listen to both sides...and if he was wrong, he'll admit that. I also agree that between he and SHADCO, there's more of a realistic and honest approach to matters of concerns, and not just bullying someone.

Yep and this makes me much more comfortable with the whole situation.

[buckethead]

Unless Im mistaken, werent you going to SHADCO meetings back when FSU813 was still in High School?

Ah, the salad days of learning everything one needs in life to succeed, and learning it by 11th grade. (no reflection on FSU813 of course)

http://www.youtube.com/v/3jyn0Ub1srQ

WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT TO ME?!?!?!

[fsu813]

"Just for the record, FSU813, it isn't whether he likes the store, it is about being fair."

- then ask him if treatment has been "fair".

[Sportmotor]

WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT TO ME?!?!?!

I'm going to go with Entertainment factor

[rush2112]

In regarding Liberty BP, I count myself as a big customer of his. I have a gas account there for the business that I'm a part of (based in Springfield). The owner is there about half the time I stop in. All of his employees are polite to me my wife (yes she goes there with our children) and my other employees.They look out for my wife while she's therealthough she's never had a problem. Get to know them and they'll probably do the same for you. I dealt with Mr Sizemore for over 10 years before that and he never had a bad word to say about Springfield. Oh and I have lived (and still do) in Springfield since 1982 so I believe I can speak about how things are now vs. how they used to be.

[rush2112]

To be perfectly honest, I've never used the basthroom there. I do live and work in the neighborhood. Kinda like to use my own when I can. But that's just me.