Florida High Speed Rail Officially Announced

Started by Metro Jacksonville, January 28, 2010, 04:11:37 AM

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JeffreyS

#45
January 28, 2010, 02:07:03 PM
Quote from: tufsu1 on January 28, 2010, 10:51:44 AM
Quote from: stephendare on January 28, 2010, 10:42:49 AM
Not showing up at the meeting that was pretty much required to know how to apply for the money was a deal killer for Jacksonville Cline.

the applications were submitted by FDOT...and the decision that HSR is Tampa-Orlando-Miami was made in 1998, not at the Orlando meeting.

And next time we will be the guys who did not show up last time. So we will know we can't stroll in there and get the money so we won't go. And the next time we will be the guys who did not show up last time. So we will know we can't stroll in there and get the money so we won't go. And the next time....
Lenny Smash

tufsu1

#46
January 28, 2010, 02:53:32 PM Last Edit: January 28, 2010, 02:56:05 PM by tufsu1
Quote from: stephendare on January 28, 2010, 02:32:07 PM

Its disingenuous to pretend that the Tampa HSR would have been an 'either or' in the first place.

Without the linkup to Jax, there is no such thing as a national HSR in Florida.  period.

So why pretend otherwise?

I suggest you listen to what Vice President Biden said a few minutes ago...basically it was that $ was given to states with projects that made sense and were ready to go!

If you want to blame our leaders from 10-20 years ago for not starting then, fine...but to blame our current leaders for not getting this money is downright wrong.

Also, take a look at the map in the picture on the front page....nobody is talking about building a national system overnight....we are building HSR in pieces (just like Europe and Asia did)....over time Jax. and the rest of the country will get connected.

vicupstate

#47
January 28, 2010, 02:55:46 PM
TUFsu1, you have a point, but it is never to soon to START being a part of the planning and discussions.  If Jax is 20 years behind, is it smart to CONTINUE waiting?  Are we shooting for 25 years behind?
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tufsu1

#48
January 28, 2010, 02:59:07 PM
Quote from: vicupstate on January 28, 2010, 02:55:46 PM
TUFsu1, you have a point, but it is never to soon to START being a part of the planning and discussions.  If Jax is 20 years behind, is it smart to CONTINUE waiting?  Are we shooting for 25 years behind?

I agree with you 100% vic....we need to be (and are) planning for Florida HSR Phase 3....connecting Orlando (and/or Miami) with Jax....as well as connecting to othersoutheast cities

All I'm saying is attending (or not) that meeting in Orlando had no bearing on us getting money this time.

JeffreyS

#49
January 28, 2010, 03:02:30 PM
Quote from: tufsu1 on January 28, 2010, 02:59:07 PM
Quote from: vicupstate on January 28, 2010, 02:55:46 PM
TUFsu1, you have a point, but it is never to soon to START being a part of the planning and discussions.  If Jax is 20 years behind, is it smart to CONTINUE waiting?  Are we shooting for 25 years behind?


I agree with you 100% vic....we need to be (and are) planning for Florida HSR Phase 3....connecting Orlando (and/or Miami) with Jax....as well as connecting to othersoutheast cities

All I'm saying is attending (or not) that meeting in Orlando had no bearing on us getting money this time.
Yes but why is that all you would be saying?
Lenny Smash

thelakelander

#50
January 28, 2010, 03:03:09 PM
Here is the loooooooong range plan:



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thelakelander

#51
January 28, 2010, 03:05:12 PM
How the $8 billion got split up:

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BridgeTroll

#52
January 28, 2010, 03:20:43 PM
Chicago will be the king of HSR!
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thelakelander

#53
January 28, 2010, 03:27:11 PM
wonder why? ;)
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BridgeTroll

#54
January 28, 2010, 03:33:24 PM
Centralized location?  Close to Milwaukee?  Home of both the Cubs AND Bears?? :)
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mtraininjax

#55
January 28, 2010, 03:53:30 PM
There is no need for HSR in Jax right now, or at least in ORL to TPA there is more demand and more need. Also, when Disney World was built, there was nothing around it, and it grew from there. Same will happen with these stations.
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tufsu1

#56
January 28, 2010, 03:56:11 PM
Quote from: thelakelander on January 28, 2010, 03:27:11 PM
wonder why? ;)

In all seriousness, look at the transportation routes (including rail) in this country....they converge on Chicago!

heights unknown

#57
January 28, 2010, 07:50:38 PM
I still wonder if anyone (namely Americans/Floridians) are really going to leave their cars (which we love like a fair, rouged cheeked virgin) and ride these trains?  We are not at all like the Europeans, Asians, and others that have these high speed trains.  I too agree that these trains maybe like our Skyway...the trains to nowhere.  I hope they are successful.
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Sportmotor

#58
January 28, 2010, 08:19:10 PM
Quote from: heights unknown on January 28, 2010, 07:50:38 PM
I still wonder if anyone (namely Americans/Floridians) are really going to leave their cars (which we love like a fair, rouged cheeked virgin) and ride these trains?  We are not at all like the Europeans, Asians, and others that have these high speed trains.  I too agree that these trains maybe like our Skyway...the trains to nowhere.  I hope they are successful.

I would if it took me places I needed to go for work or personal for less then driving with-in a decent time frame.
I have to go to Atlanta alot and 6-8 hours and near $80-100 for the trip in gas(and food) is not fun.
Plus I have to go to Orlando alot as well, both in the heart of and outskirts.
Get me on a train for less then that in time and money and I'll ditch my vechical in a heart beat.

Would also be nice to ride the train to and from work everyday.
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thelakelander

#59
January 28, 2010, 08:39:24 PM
Quote from: mtraininjax on January 28, 2010, 03:53:30 PM
There is no need for HSR in Jax right now, or at least in ORL to TPA there is more demand and more need. Also, when Disney World was built, there was nothing around it, and it grew from there. Same will happen with these stations.

Will the same happen with our skyway?
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