Is Springfield Ready for a Car Wash?

[thelakelander]

Well it's definitely funny that after 28 pages of debate, the demonized "sparbarians" seem like they could be proven right. Noise or no noise, the real root of the debate was whether an auto oriented business is appropriate for main street or whether it will be too trashy. As of right now, we have a giant magenta exclamation point proving the winner of that debate.

Hopefully the owner will start acting in good faith, and we'll get to see if a properly designed auto oriented business can work in the neighborhood.

I disagree on your first point.  Imo, it could be pink with purple poka dots and being a viable open business would be better than the vacant blight that was sitting there before.  Regardless of wall color, its an appropriate business for a commercial corridor like Main Street.  With that said, I do agree that the owner should abide by the aesthetic conditions that were agreed upon by all parties.

[02roadking]

The Garnet would not have been my choice, but, as long as he does not trim it out in gold, I'm ok with it   

[danno]

I didn't even notice the new paint when I drove past on my way home yesterday.  I took a look this morninf on my way to work and I don't see the fuss about the color. 

It is about the same as Waffa and Mikes.  Or are we not supposed to like that color either???

[JeffreyS]

I do not care what color it is but after all the fuss use the approved design.

[ChriswUfGator]

I didn't even notice the new paint when I drove past on my way home yesterday.  I took a look this morninf on my way to work and I don't see the fuss about the color.  

It is about the same as Waffa and Mikes.  Or are we not supposed to like that color either???

You're not supposed to like anything the SPARbarians don't approve of...

I honestly can't understand why ANYONE is listening to them at this stage. They have lost all credibility.

[danno]

I do not care what color it is but after all the fuss use the approved design.

Maybe it is primer......

[Debbie Thompson]

Just more than a little sick of finger pointing at SPAR all the time.  I feel I'm a reasonable voice, and I'm a SPAR member.  (I even vote!) Give it a rest.

I think a car wash in a historic district should blend in and not be red.  I think any business that opens in a historic district should try to blend into the existing aesthetic of the neighborhood as much as possible.

How about you stop throwing barbs at SPAR now, and realize that the aesthetic improvements were something Silas agreed to and should abide by?  They were the conditions upon which he would be allowed to re-open the car wash, and he agreed to them.

[KuroiKetsunoHana]

i'm really sick ov people always goïng on about how everything should 'blend in'.  the houses you claim to love so much were not designed to blend in--they were designed to stand out.  what makes your insistence that things should blend in even more ridiculous is the double standard you've shown in allowing companies like SRG to waltz in and build a bunch ov sub-par crap that supposedly blends in, but looks like dog turds warmed over to anyöne with any familiarity with victorian architecture.

if you want everything to look the same, and you want to be able to enforce it, move into a gated community with an HOA, and leave those ov us who don't think things all have to look the same to be acceptable alone.

[ChriswUfGator]

Just more than a little sick of finger pointing at SPAR all the time.  I feel I'm a reasonable voice, and I'm a SPAR member.  (I even vote!) Give it a rest.

I think a car wash in a historic district should blend in and not be red.  I think any business that opens in a historic district should try to blend into the existing aesthetic of the neighborhood as much as possible.

How about you stop throwing barbs at SPAR now, and realize that the aesthetic improvements were something Silas agreed to and should abide by?  They were the conditions upon which he would be allowed to re-open the car wash, and he agreed to them.

Wait, so are we talking about blending into the same historic district that your group had half of demolished?

The same historic district that, in all likelihood, your group's incessant complaining to the state and EPA about the Park View Inn being a toxic hazard over the past decade originally brought the EPA attention down that resulted in the whole place getting declared a toxic waste dump (literally)?

The same historic district that your group terrorized with orchestrated code-enforcement call-in campaigns, many of which resulted in the closure of local businesses and the demolition of historic structures?

The same historic district, wherein one of your fellow SPAR members just bulldozed another historic house because she wanted a bigger yard?

The same historic district whose chief protector, Joel Mceachin, your group tried to have fired because he actually tried to prevent demolitions of historic structures, including the one I just mentioned?

The same historic district whose overlay that your group selectively enforces, to the effect that it excludes black-owned businesses while allowing others (like Craig VanHorn) who properly kiss SPAR’s backside to get away with absolute bloody murder, including chasing off other businesses, ripping off other neighborhood residents, and destroying historic structures, all before going bust in spectacular fashion?

And, let's not forget, the same group whose former Executive Director, after spending the last decade browbeating everyone with her selectively-enforced zoning overlay, now has the balls to actually seek a ZONING EXCEPTION so that her own real estate deal can go through?

The same group that stopped a single parent with special needs children in the middle of the street and accosted him for trying to open a "group care home" for retards…RIGHT IN FRONT OF HIS SPECIAL-NEEDS KIDS?

The same group who hired and paid the off-duty "community enforcement" officers who shot and killed Kiko Battles...FOR JAYWALKING???

The same group that was so off its rocker that it actually wrote THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES to complain about Joe and Gloria's home for recovering alcoholics? (That was effin' CLASSIC!)

The same group that drunkenly stormed a public meeting at 3 Layers and tried to punch Stephen Dare in the balls?

The same group that stormed the Woman's Club meetings, and whose drunken buffoonery got so out hand that the Woman's Club actually had to CALL THE COPS ON SPAR???

Really? Are we're talking about THE SAME GROUP? Really?

Nobody is throwing barbs at SPAR. The sad truth is, all of this stuff actually happened.

If SPAR finds it so offensive that anyone would point this out, then maybe SPAR should take some personal responsibility and stop doing the things that the very mention of apparently offend it…notwithstanding that it was only SPAR’s actual behavior in the first place.

The actions of your group truly defy belief, and no offense, but I think it will be a very long time before anyone has any sympathy for SPAR. Hopefully by that time, there will again be homes on all the vacant lots left behind by your group’s reign of destruction.

[KuroiKetsunoHana]

just a thought...blueprints for a lot ov these houses must still survive, but as far as i've seen, noöne has built new houses based on them.  seems to me that the ideal fix for the now-empty lots is for the next investor to actually build historically accurate houses...

[Captain Zissou]

The same group that drunkenly stormed a public meeting at 3 Layers and tried to punch Stephen Dare in the balls?

Can I get a further explanation on this? It sounds hilarious.

[CS Foltz]

Captain............I could tell you but I got my information second hand so I will leave it to chris to explain! My question is "What color is a bulldozed lot"?

[ChriswUfGator]

The same group that drunkenly stormed a public meeting at 3 Layers and tried to punch Stephen Dare in the balls?

Can I get a further explanation on this? It sounds hilarious.

I'm going to let Stephen explain that one when he gets back, for your benefit, since the whole thing was so insanely over-the-top I really wouldn't want to leave anything out. You almost couldn't think this stuff was real, if it hadn't happened in front of 100 people.

[danno]

Captain............I could tell you but I got my information second hand so I will leave it to chris to explain! My question is "What color is a bulldozed lot"?

The ones on my block are brown.  They find it easier to spray and kill all of the grass rather than mow.

[CS Foltz]

Ouch! Too bad they don't atleast plant wildflowers........or maybe even have vegetable gardens for the neighborhood to share in......planting, maintaining and eating! But thats just me!