Springfield Community Meeting - 11/05 @ 7pm

[cindi]

i am not sure but i thought there were no more of these "facilities" allowed  (unless they are at 3rd and main), unless, of course they are using the loophole.

[ChriswUfGator]

I was appalled.  Why don't they just engage the owners in an attempt to determine the legitimacy or illegitimacy of these houses?  Instead they have started a witch hunt.

Matt, I'm glad you finally noticed. Better late than never. Now see if we can't talk some sense into FSU and Dan B.

[Dan B]

Bite me. I didn't see you, or your mentors happy asses there.

[sheclown]

Dan B was awesome last night.  He said that he didn't like the low density houses, BUT he was truly upset with the manner in which the SPAR board was going about "collecting" information ie.  

Apparently, it is necessary for SPAR to get information which would give the city "probable cause" to get a warrant to inspect these properties.  SPAR board recommends that neighbors gather affidavits, get video tapes and recordings, and do some investigation.  Then they suggest a "clearinghouse" of this information to give to the city.

[ChriswUfGator]

Bite me. I didn't see you, or your mentors happy asses there.

I'm in Concord, NH until Monday. Loan me your private jet next time and I'll come.

[ChriswUfGator]

Bite me. I didn't see you, or your mentors happy asses there.

Alright, I hear via PM that you actually came to your senses at the meeting and realized what was up.

Like I said to Matt, better late than never. So my job with you is now done, as your eyes are apparently opened. So I will leave you alone moving forward. It is kind of shocking to realize all this stuff on the forum actually has a firm basis in reality, isn't it? Those who have lived on the wrong end of it know what I'm talking about too. I hear Louise's crew did a better job of showing their own ugly side than any of us could have done, and while it's a shame that is going on, I'm glad you got to see it firsthand.

[sheclown]

Dan said that he found this tactic alarming.  

I thought the fact that he spoke out was courageous, given the atmosphere of the place.

(I still think Dan is kind of a butt sometimes, but last night I was glad he was there and gave him a hug afterward).

[Johnny]

I didn't go to the meeting, but am kind of shocked about the petition/sign-in sheet. Is that legal?

[Springfielder]

And, Springfielder, my attempt at humor re: the type of posting that often occurs in Springfield-related threads was not directed at any poster. Guess I'm guilty of floating a lead balloon.

Sorry, I didn't catch it....all is good 

[ChriswUfGator]

I was appalled.  Why don't they just engage the owners in an attempt to determine the legitimacy or illegitimacy of these houses?  Instead they have started a witch hunt.

Matt, I'm glad you finally noticed. Better late than never. Now see if we can't talk some sense into FSU and Dan B.

Don't think I'm in your camp just because I would like to see some things flushed out.  Your attacks were not acceptable either.

Thanks, but I don't have a 'camp'. And my 'attacks' were nothing more than accurate statements.

You've now seen Louise's BS tactics yourself firsthand, and their attempt at petition fraud has been documented by several other posters on this forum. So, really, give it a rest. I don't think you could borrow a leg to stand on at this point, if you're still going to argue that everything I've said about SPAR and Louise is untrue.

[Dan B]

Chris, for some reason you think we are babes in the wood or something. We arent. I was a sitting board member for almost three years, and have been fairly involved since I moved to the community in 2003. Matt has been involved since he moved in several years ago.

All of these people you are casting aspersions at, or sucking up to as the case may be, I have known and have worked/dealt with many a time, including Joe, Gloria, Claude, and Louise.

So please, save the accolades. I personally have no need for them. I have always, and will always call them as I see them.

[ChriswUfGator]

Chris, for some reason you think we are babes in the wood or something. We arent. I was a sitting board member for almost three years, and have been fairly involved since I moved to the community in 2003. Matt has been involved since he moved in several years ago.

All of these people you are casting aspersions at, or sucking up to as the case may be, I have known and have worked/dealt with many a time, including Joe, Gloria, Claude, and Louise.

So please, save the accolades. I personally have no need for them. I have always, and will always call them as I see them.

That's the problem. You weren't calling them as you saw them, until last night's meeting.

Prior to that, you were on this forum defending certain people based solely on reputation, and personally attacking anyone who disagreed with your viewpoint. Nobody said you're a "babe in the woods", but your responses indicated only two real possibilities; 1: That you really didn't know what was actually going on, or 2: That you knew but approved and defended it.

Your words today indicate it was #1. So again, glad your eyes are now open. But you personally attacked me, J & G, Stephen, and anyone else who said SPAR was doing the stuff they have in fact actually been doing. I do appreciate that you ultimately came around, though. I'm not even sure what we're arguing about at this point?

[hooplady]

All I can say is, I am truly disappointed.  It seems like SPAR had one last chance to prove the naysayers wrong, and all they did was remove the final shred of doubt for those of us on the fence.  I am reading the comments of so many neighbors whose opinions I have come to respect - they can't all be partaking in mass hysteria.

[sheclown]

Boundaries are good.  

Matt, let's use this as a metaphor for establishing reason into the eventual discussion we will have on the "rooming house" issue.

[sheclown]

We could call it "Good Fence Initiative"