Philips Hwy./US1

Started by British Shoe Company, October 13, 2009, 11:13:40 PM

British Shoe Company

Create another JTB.  It will need overpasses now, sorta like 9A.  However it will be $ well spent.  US1 does not need to turn into Blanding Blvd. We ne a "B" line from Jax. to St. Aug. (With no traffic lights)

reednavy

First off, it is PHILIPS.

2nd, it has a JTB-like neighbor called I-95.
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British Shoe Company

I am sorry added an extra L.  Can you forgive me reednavy?   I forgive your hostility.

British Shoe Company

let your 970th post be positive.  You can do it!

thelakelander

Instead of converting it into another expressway, it should become an urban boulevard that complements commuter rail and Amtrak on the FEC corridor.  The majority of the property along Philips should be rezoned to allow for dense transit friendly and walkable development from the county line all the way to DT.  A multi-use path running parallel to the tracks the entire length, would also be a nice element.  This would really turn Philips into a gateway instead of a blight magnet.
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reednavy

Quote from: thelakelander on October 13, 2009, 11:32:22 PM
Instead of converting it into another expressway, it should become an urban boulevard that complements commuter rail and Amtrak on the FEC corridor.  The majority of the property along Philips should be rezoned to allow for dense transit friendly and walkable development from the county line all the way to DT.  A multi-use path running parallel to the tracks the entire length, would also be a nice element.  This would really turn Philips into a gateway instead of a blight magnet.
Ding!

Bayard could be turned into an excellent model for such development. Hopefully before more ugly sprawl spills over from Nocatee and Bartram Park.

BSC, I'm not being hostile, it's jsut that you pull some stupid, just plain stupid ideas out of thin air and expect people to go along with them when it is clear that Philips Highway could not be transformed into what you think.

God help us all if you were to get into public office one day.
Jacksonville: We're not vertically challenged, just horizontally gifted!

David

Quote from: reednavy on October 13, 2009, 11:37:47 PM

BSC, I'm not being hostile, it's jsut that you pull some stupid, just plain stupid ideas out of thin air and expect people to go along with them when it is clear that Philips Highway could not be transformed into what you think.

It's just, not jsut.

reednavy

Quote from: David on October 13, 2009, 11:45:30 PM
Quote from: reednavy on October 13, 2009, 11:37:47 PM

BSC, I'm not being hostile, it's jsut that you pull some stupid, just plain stupid ideas out of thin air and expect people to go along with them when it is clear that Philips Highway could not be transformed into what you think.


It's just, not jsut.

Damn, oh well.

I'm just a stickler for Philips Highway being spelled correctly.
Jacksonville: We're not vertically challenged, just horizontally gifted!

stjr

Why don't we build an interstate parallel to every non-interstate in Northeast Florida:  Beach, Atlantic, San Jose, University, Blanding, Roosevelt, Timuquana/103rd, San Juan, Normandy, Lem Turner, Dunn, Heckscher, A1A - Heck, pave over the entire county and be done with it.  That'll solve all our traffic problems, rid us of those pesty snakes and trees, and stimulate our economy with all that "free" federal money.  And, it will sell more of both "liberal and conservative" gas.  Right, British Shoe?  ::)
Hey!  Whatever happened to just plain ol' COMMON SENSE!!

British Shoe Company

The Duval County road planners are not a good road models in general.  I do think we should try to make the best of a bad situation in Duval, and St. Johns County does need to do it better.

JeffreyS

Philips could be a show piece if we could get commuter stops up and down the length of it. Go to work downtown stop at Baymeadows on the way home 50 foot walk to Chicago Pizza, shop at the Avenues  then settle down in Naccotee or St. Augustine for the evening. The next day San Marco or any of the new businesses who are trying to take advantage of New line.
Lenny Smash

thelakelander

JeffreyS, I like your line of thinking.  It sets up perfectly for a linear transit corridor.

Quote from: British Shoe Company on October 14, 2009, 07:41:03 AM
I do think we should try to make the best of a bad situation in Duval, and St. Johns County does need to do it better.

I agree.  The answer is rail, not more of what got us all (St. Johns included) in this mess in the first place. 
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mtraininjax

QuoteThis would really turn Philips into a gateway instead of a blight magnet.

Lake - Exactly where is the blight on Philips in Jax? Remember, its a lonnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnng road in Jax.
And, that $115 will save Jacksonville from financial ruin. - Mayor John Peyton

"This is a game-changer. This is what I mean when I say taking Jacksonville to the next level."
-Mayor Alvin Brown on new video boards at Everbank Field

thelakelander

Primarily between DT and JTB or Baymeadows.  However, the rest of the corridor (all the way to St. Augustine) is nothing to brag about and would benefit from a longterm makeover as well.
"A man who views the world the same at 50 as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life." - Muhammad Ali

mtraininjax

Lake - From I-95 to Shad road looks pretty decent, with a movie theatre and some simple office buildings. South of I-95 its the makings of suburbia with light/light/light and car dealerships, then the interchange with 9A and office parks.

The only real blight I see is the Gator lodge and some mobile home parks between Emerson and University, but for the most part, the Wal-Mart and the BJs have all done great to clean up the area. The George Moore Chevy area is getting a cleanup in new development and this will take place up and down the corridor.

There is far less blight here than there was in the 80s.
And, that $115 will save Jacksonville from financial ruin. - Mayor John Peyton

"This is a game-changer. This is what I mean when I say taking Jacksonville to the next level."
-Mayor Alvin Brown on new video boards at Everbank Field