The Avenues Mall

Duke · September 02, 2009, 11:29:46 PM

I was at the Avenues Mall today, noticed that the big spot vacated by Victoria's Secret on the bottom floor has been broken up and a small clothing store opened in the middle. I also noticed that Abercrombie and Fitch was closed; the sign was down, and the facade was getting repainted. Did they shut down or are they renovating? I was just wondering if anyone knew what was going on?

CS Foltz · September 03, 2009, 07:10:09 AM

More than just one store has left.............Mall management is trying to reduce floor space to make room for more stores in the same space that had one store there! Mall occupancy is slowly but surely being reduced by the economic state!

copperfiend · September 03, 2009, 07:30:06 AM

The Circle of Life

buckethead · September 03, 2009, 08:19:42 AM

In other news: Town Center is expanding.

Sportmotor · September 03, 2009, 05:22:09 PM

AF is probley remodeling

DavidWilliams · September 03, 2009, 07:10:31 PM

I wouldn't think there would be massive flight out of the Avenues just yet.

Burn to Shine · September 11, 2009, 07:47:41 PM

I wonder just how long malls are going to last. The Jax Landing looks like a ghost town. I can't even remember the last time I actually shopped in a mall other than the Town Center which isn't really a mall type mall (if that makes sense).

coredumped · September 11, 2009, 08:46:11 PM

Quote from: wwanderlust on September 03, 2009, 09:49:32 AM
Town Center's great...as long as it's not hot, cold, or raining.

Or you aren't going to drive there (there are no other options) as parking is a nightmare.

In 10-20 years, the town center will be empty and filing for bankruptcy. That place is a joke, they have valet parking, yet, a target and a dollar store in that plaza - seems very silly and people will figure it out.

Regency killed downtown, SJTC is killing regency (and hurting avenues), what's next? Perhaps instead of plowing and pouring (concrete) we could re-use what we have - downtown, regency, etc.

Can I change my username to I_H8_SJTC ?

reednavy · September 11, 2009, 09:16:05 PM

Just to clarify, the Target and associated stores by it are not part of the "true" SJTC. Hmm, 10-20 years, that seems very bold, and IMO, stupid. The many of the stores in the actual Town Center part are not found anywhere else in the region. You'd have to go to Orlando, Tampa, Miami, etc to see those stores. Granted, landing a high-end dept. store or two will definetly tie up the image it is trying to play. SJTC isn't going anywhere, anytime soon as no other place in the metro area could support the kind of stores that are already there anyways. All this so-called talk of competing developments planned in St. Johns County is just that, talk, as there is nowhere near the amount residents to justify that type of development.

DavidWilliams · September 11, 2009, 10:49:30 PM

"Regency killed downtown, SJTC is killing regency (and hurting avenues), what's next? Perhaps instead of plowing and pouring (concrete) we could re-use what we have - downtown, regency, etc."

With you on re-use. The decline of the old Arlington neighborhoods over the last 15-20 years eventually led to the Recency mall "death". Avenues should be ok for awhile. Never been a fan of SJTC and I see your point on sprawl.

thelakelander · September 12, 2009, 06:07:26 AM

Its not SJTC that is killing Regency, its River City Marketplace. Both of those centers pull from the same demographic pool.

Bativac · September 12, 2009, 07:36:44 AM

Quote from: coredumped on September 11, 2009, 08:46:11 PMRegency killed downtown, SJTC is killing regency (and hurting avenues), what's next? Perhaps instead of plowing and pouring (concrete) we could re-use what we have - downtown, regency, etc.

I am 100% with you on this one. Jacksonville, however, seems to have a thing for starting up something new, promoting it as the "next big thing," then leaving it to rot once the newness wears off. I don't blame just the developers... I mean, I've got relatives who quit going to Regency back when the Avenues opened because they didn't like the clientele (i.e. the people who didn't look like them)... And once SJTC opened, they repeated the cycle... once the next new mall or whatever opens, SJTC will be "old hat" and will be taken over by discount chains and dollar stores...

CS Foltz · September 12, 2009, 07:42:59 AM

Mall are just a microcosm of our life...........I don't know of any Mall right now that is at 100% occupancy and until the economy picks up probably won't!

coredumped · September 12, 2009, 01:01:30 PM

Quote from: reednavy on September 11, 2009, 09:16:05 PM
Just to clarify, the Target and associated stores by it are not part of the "true" SJTC. Hmm, 10-20 years, that seems very bold, and IMO, stupid.

thanks

nicktooch · October 01, 2009, 08:25:28 PM

Quote from: coredumped on September 12, 2009, 01:01:30 PM
Quote from: reednavy on September 11, 2009, 09:16:05 PM
Just to clarify, the Target and associated stores by it are not part of the "true" SJTC. Hmm, 10-20 years, that seems very bold, and IMO, stupid.

thanks

actually it is part of the SJTC... check the map... one side is called the Community Center (dollar tree to petsmart etc) and the rest are in the Lifestyle Center.