SOME good election news: Fla. Marriage Amendment Winning by Large Margin

Started by Driven1, November 04, 2008, 10:01:10 PM

Driven1

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Florida’s Amendment 2, which sought to define marriage as the legal union of only one man and one woman as husband and wife, is passing overwhelmingly, according to the latest results from the Florida Department of State Division of Elections

With nearly four million votes cast, the yes votes for approval had taken 63.3 percent of the vote compared to 36.7 voting against the measure. The measure also includes a provision to protect the new law from judicial review and action, though it will still likely be subject to a challenge in the courts.

A total of 153 similar measures across 36 states are at stake in this election. Perhaps the most watched will be California's Proposition 8 to put a stop to gay marriage in the state. A poll released by the Public Policy Institute of California last week showed the initiative down among voters.

http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/florida_marriage/2008/11/04/147750.html

jbm32206

It's a shame that ignorance is winning....this isn't just about marriage, which by the way, there's already the law on the books stating that it's to be a man and a woman...this is takes away the rights of anyone close, and it's sad that this is passing. This sets the state back and not forward

civil42806


civil42806

Quote from: jbm32206 on November 04, 2008, 10:03:37 PM
It's a shame that ignorance is winning....this isn't just about marriage, which by the way, there's already the law on the books stating that it's to be a man and a woman...this is takes away the rights of anyone close, and it's sad that this is passing. This sets the state back and not forward


I agree with you, unfortuantely Conneticut tried the same thing, but the state supreme court overuled the legislature.  Thats why I disagree with the result, but it was almost necessary to take it out of the courts hands.    I dislike an active judicary

TREE4309

As a straight male currently living in a domestic partnership, I'm pissed.  Now I have to get married...SHIT!  ;D

jbm32206

Funny as that may sound.....it's actually true, because this will impact such relationships

Driven1

Quote from: jbm32206 on November 04, 2008, 10:03:37 PM
It's a shame that ignorance is winning....

many of those same "ignorant" voters may just be handing Florida to Obama.  be careful of insulting the electorate.  this just shows that we are STILL a center-right country and this vote for Obama was really simply a vote AGAINST the last 8 years.


TREE4309

My humor was intended, but I am serious too.  Passing Amendment 2 is not cool at all.

civil42806

Quote from: TREE4309 on November 04, 2008, 10:09:17 PM
My humor was intended, but I am serious too.  Passing Amendment 2 is not cool at all.
LOL, you better check out the common law rules in Florida you may already be married.  BUt I always joke with a gay friend of mine, you know there are hundreds of guys saying to there partners,  "of course I'd marry you but the government won' let me"   secretly say thank god.  I always say why should they be the only ones allowed to be happy!!!

TREE4309

Quote from: civil42806 on November 04, 2008, 10:13:39 PM
Quote from: TREE4309 on November 04, 2008, 10:09:17 PM
My humor was intended, but I am serious too.  Passing Amendment 2 is not cool at all.
LOL, you better check out the common law rules in Florida you may already be married.  BUt I always joke with a gay friend of mine, you know there are hundreds of guys saying to there partners,  "of course I'd marry you but the government won' let me"   secretly say thank god.  I always say why should they be the only ones allowed to be happy!!!

As of 1968, Florida is no longer a common law state.

civil42806

Quote from: TREE4309 on November 04, 2008, 10:17:03 PM
Quote from: civil42806 on November 04, 2008, 10:13:39 PM
Quote from: TREE4309 on November 04, 2008, 10:09:17 PM
My humor was intended, but I am serious too.  Passing Amendment 2 is not cool at all.
LOL, you better check out the common law rules in Florida you may already be married.  BUt I always joke with a gay friend of mine, you know there are hundreds of guys saying to there partners,  "of course I'd marry you but the government won' let me"   secretly say thank god.  I always say why should they be the only ones allowed to be happy!!!

As of 1968, Florida is no longer a common law state.


Well I stand corrected!!!

jbm32206

which now with this passing, any domestic partnerships have lost any hope of rights

civil42806

Quote from: jbm32206 on November 04, 2008, 10:18:37 PM
which now with this passing, any domestic partnerships have lost any hope of rights

Unforunately thats correct, I don't like to see this any more than you do.   The situation here is make a public argument about the situation and lobby the legislature.  Justify what you want, admendments have been overcome before.  Argue about the unfairness of the situation and say why you think its unfair.  I understand why many people voted for this admendment, because they were afraid of having the option dictated by the courts, I don't agree but I understand.  If we are talking about a fundamental redefinition of what marriage means it need to be through vigourous and vocal debate, not by 9 old men setting on a pedestal.

Driven1

I voted for the amendment because MARRIAGE is quite simply defined as being between one man and one woman.  It always has been and always should be.  Marriage is the bedrock of our reproducing society.

If two people of any gender want certain rights associated with that of a married couple, that is fine by me.  I will vote FOR such a proposal. 

But I will always vote to protect marriage - and obviously there is a pretty large majority that feel the same as I do.