Rise Doro construction photos

Started by jaxlongtimer, December 02, 2023, 12:38:19 AM

Jax_Developer

This just set us back.. really surprising to wake up to. Hopefully they can figure out a solution in a timely manner.

Josh

One of the few pieces of progress downtown in years, and it goes up in flames.

WarDamJagFan

In a span of just over a month, we went from "hearing rumors they're having a hard time signing leases" to a fire big enough to require the whole building be torn down. The juju from Shad Khan's Jaguars continues to spill over into every aspect of downtown.

Ken_FSU

Real bummer. Feel so bad for the developer. Hopefully something is salvageable for the rebuild, even if just the parking garage.

CityLife

#19
They were leasing for March 1st and appear to have a lot of availability. There are at least 46 units still available for March 1st, though it's possible they don't even have every possible unit listed as available on the website.

https://leasing.risedoro.com/jacksonville/rise-doro/conventional/

Jax_Developer

Quote from: CityLife on January 29, 2024, 09:18:14 AM
They were leasing for March 1st and appear to have a lot of availability. There are at least 46 units still available for March 1st, though it's possible they don't even have every possible unit listed as available on the website.

https://leasing.risedoro.com/jacksonville/rise-doro/conventional/

https://risedoro.com/siteplan/

This shows the availability better. Most of the units were still available.

CityLife

Quote from: Jax_Developer on January 29, 2024, 09:37:16 AM
Quote from: CityLife on January 29, 2024, 09:18:14 AM
They were leasing for March 1st and appear to have a lot of availability. There are at least 46 units still available for March 1st, though it's possible they don't even have every possible unit listed as available on the website.

https://leasing.risedoro.com/jacksonville/rise-doro/conventional/

https://risedoro.com/siteplan/

This shows the availability better. Most of the units were still available.

Good find. I looked earlier and there was a lot more availability than the 46 I posted about, and that was also while offering free rent for 2 months with no application fees.

They've made the website dead, with every page thanking JFRD for the fire response.

jaxlongtimer

While not a fan of this project, I still feel bad for the developer that this has happened.

So many times, these large "stick" apartment projects endure this tragedy around the U.S. that I am surprised, at some point in the construction, insurers don't require more stringent loss control including off-hours security.  One loss like this will pay for a lot of security guard hours.

Cause could be arson, homeless encampment, careless contractor, etc.  I also note that many contractor tools use lithium batteries today. If some were being recharged, unattended, inside the structure, this might be another possibility.  It's why you can't check them in your luggage on a plane anymore.

thelakelander

Berkman II wasn't stick frame.  Unfortunate events occasionally happen during the construction process, regardless of the type of construction. 

Years ago the Quarter at Ybor condo project (https://maps.app.goo.gl/JPCX2uZUto6JLEMS6) burned down during construction.

One of the large buildings at Fusion Apartments (https://maps.app.goo.gl/qAwvYgrUbzmFkebZ9) on East Baymeadows also was destroyed by fire during the construction process. I believe everything was destroyed except for the parking garage. It took them a few extra years of construction, but both projects ended up rebuilding.

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jaxlongtimer

Quote from: thelakelander on January 29, 2024, 12:53:16 PM
Berkman II wasn't stick frame.  Unfortunate events occasionally happen during the construction process, regardless of the type of construction. 

To be clear, I was specifically referring to fire events, not building collapses like Berkman or other possibilities.

acme54321

Orlando had a big wood frame apartment building burn down during construction too.  So it's not uncommon.

heights unknown

Wow. Unbelievable. What next, another 1901 type of fire? Where's Mrs. Oleary?
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marcuscnelson

Mayor Deegan providing an update on Twitter:

QuoteHere is the latest information on the Rise Doro apartment fire:


  • Our city engineers have determined that it is no longer structurally sound.
  • We learned that the sprinkler system was not activated because it was pending a final pressure check during the fire inspection that was supposed to happen this week
  • Intuition Ale Works, Manifest Distilling, and the offices across A. Phillip Randolph are in the collapse zone and will be unable to open until we have completed the demolition of the wood frame portion of the Doro building.

I want to once again thank our @THEJFRD firefighters who have been working around the clock since 9:30 last night to contain the fire. We're grateful for their bravery, hard work, and dedication.

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Tacachale

Such a tragedy, but that's what insurance is for. Thank God no one was hurt.
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CityLife

#29
Quote from: Tacachale on January 30, 2024, 09:44:47 AM
Such a tragedy, but that's what insurance is for. Thank God no one was hurt.

I talked to a seasoned fire inspector this morning about the fire. He said that it would be normal for the fire suppression system and fire alarms to not be operational until they passed inspection (or around time of C/O), so nothing out of the ordinary there. However, he said that he has inspected numerous wood framed apartments and always ensures that stairs are completed ASAP so that any fires can be sufficiently treated. He said there is language in the National Fire Protection Association code that requires this. He said there are a lot of instances of insurance companies not paying fire claims out when the fire code was not properly followed.

It's purely speculation, since he doesn't know the specifics of the case; but he said that it's likely the insurance company will fight the insurance claim if it has any evidence that construction issues led to the fire or limited JFRD's ability to fight the fire. The lack of completed stairs could become an issue in his opinion.  Hopefully that doesn't happen.