Berkman Plaza 2

Started by Julian, November 03, 2008, 12:29:11 PM

Tacachale

^Actually, yes, and the Shipyards isn't a done deal anyway.
Do you believe that when the blue jay or another bird sings and the body is trembling, that is a signal that people are coming or something important is about to happen?

Keith-N-Jax

Hopefully we will here some real news soon. These properties = very sad ):

downtownbrown

my guess is that one of two things are likely to happen as a package deal.  Either Berkman 2 gets done and the Shipyards is developed, or neither will happen and the Jaguars leave town.  I just can't conceive of a scenario where Khan doesn't develop the Shipyards if he intends to keep the Jags here.  And I believe he intends to keep the Jags here.  Call me a cockeyed optimist. 

InnerCityPressure

downtownbrown is a cockeyed optimist.

jaxjaguar

#124
Not to be a Debbie Downer, but if this doesn't get worked out along with the trio and old barnett building that would be:

Failed / indefinitely delayed:
Berkman 2 / Shipyards
Riverside YMCA
Barnett
Trio
Beaver Street Villas
Greyhound station
Library Facade

If we could get these moving and completed it would be great for the urban core... unfortunately there always seems to be some sort of short sight or road block... Is there anything we can do to get these projects moving? I feel like this forum has a lot of great minds that could point the herd in the right direction.

downtownbrown

all it takes is Money and Political Will.  Our tax base lacks the former, and our mayor lacks the latter.  So private development is our only hope.  Which is why the short answer is Shad Khan.  He has much to benefit.  He'll get tax concessions, and the value of his franchise will increase greatly.  It's easier to fill a stadium when folks can easily walk from a fun destination to the game.

...and InncerCity:  ;)

carpnter

Quote from: jaxjaguar on March 27, 2014, 11:32:06 AM
Not to be a Debbie Downer, but if this doesn't get worked out along with the trio and old barnett building that would be:

Failed / indefinitely delayed:
Berkman 2 / Shipyards
Riverside YMCA
Barnett
Trio
Beaver Street Villas
Greyhound station
Library Facade

If we could get these moving and completed it would be great for the urban core... unfortunately there always seems to be some sort of short sight or road block... Is there anything we can do to get these projects moving? I feel like this forum has a lot of great minds that could point the herd in the right direction.

The Riverside YMCA broke ground in December and as of that date they had raised over 90% of the funds to build it.

jaxjaguar

Quote from: carpnter on March 27, 2014, 11:40:40 AM

The Riverside YMCA broke ground in December and as of that date they had raised over 90% of the funds to build it.

Unfortunately all they've done is move the sign... I ride my bike past it on a daily basis. It's been mentioned that they've run into a financial road block. :(

tufsu1

Quote from: jaxjaguar on March 27, 2014, 11:32:06 AM
Not to be a Debbie Downer, but if this doesn't get worked out along with the trio and old barnett building that would be:

Failed / indefinitely delayed:
Library Facade

which project is this...the old library?  If so, construction is underway inside

jaxjaguar

Quote from: tufsu1 on March 27, 2014, 11:54:02 AM
which project is this...the old library?  If so, construction is underway inside

The New library. The facades facing Main and Duval.

carpnter

Quote from: jaxjaguar on March 27, 2014, 12:35:56 PM
Quote from: tufsu1 on March 27, 2014, 11:54:02 AM
which project is this...the old library?  If so, construction is underway inside

The New library. The facades facing Main and Duval.

What is wrong the those facades?  The are currently fixing water leaks on the Main Street facade, but it was new when they built the Library.

jaxjaguar

Quote from: carpnter on March 27, 2014, 01:12:37 PM
What is wrong the those facades?  The are currently fixing water leaks on the Main Street facade, but it was new when they built the Library.

I stand corrected on that one. I had just noticed the missing bricks for the last 6 months or so.

Regardless we need some sort of presence from this site to help expedite and sustain projects in the urban core. I feel like a lot of us would show support. We have a lot of non-registered lurkers willing to show up for rallies or meetings. The vast majority of the meetings are held at hours most of us 9-5ers can't make, though. Maybe we should have a MetroJax meet up?

tufsu1

MJ does that weekly...I believe Tuesdays at 7pm at the Pizza Palace in san marco

JayBird

Since when do the Jaguars and the Shipyards go hand in hand? Besides the owner saying he would be interested in a project I don't see how the two are linked. And also, EVERYONE is interested. However, the city still hasn't decided what it wants to do with the property and all developers seem skittish about being the first ones to throw their hat in the ring.

I think by looking to Khan to single handedly save Jacksonville is not only unfair to him, but very shortsighted of us as a community. And if the shipyards are fully dependent on the Jaguars, than I guess we won't see movement for another decade because they are here at least until 2027.
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edjax

think by looking to Khan to single handedly save Jacksonville is not only unfair to him, but very shortsighted of us as a community.

^^ Jax being shortsighted!!! Certainly you jest.