"Move to Jax" billboards featuring Lenny Curry

Started by Papa33, July 08, 2021, 03:06:06 PM

JPalmer

Again, I prefer to put money to use and not lining the pockets of consultants.  If you think spending $45k on consultants gets us any closer to the intended goal you have little grasp of financial oversight. 

How much money was wasted on feasibility studies to build an aquarium and how much closer did it get us to that outcome. 

Get over yourself and just admit you like talking issues and not solving them.

Peter Griffin

Quote from: JPalmer on July 12, 2021, 02:04:04 PM
Get over yourself and just admit you like talking issues and not solving them.

Roasty toasty BURN!

Got 'em!

Snaketoz

Quote from: JPalmer on July 12, 2021, 09:35:04 AM
Opinions are only one part of a discussion board, and so is offering up facts.   Also offering your opinion of a discussion board means you should probably expect others to possibly disagree. 

If you have a problem with someone disagreeing with you on a message board, you should really keep it between your ears.
I suppose I am old and having trouble understanding you.  To me, you seem to be telling others not to do what you do. Keep it between your ears".
"No amount of evidence will ever persuade an idiot."

JPalmer

If you are afraid of disagreement from others, you should keep it to yourself. 

Literally not sure what is hard to understand...

jaxoNOLE

Quote from: JPalmer on July 12, 2021, 08:35:17 AM
Quote from: vicupstate on July 10, 2021, 10:21:12 PM
If it were me, I would have given the $45k to the CVB and ask them how they would recommend spending it. JAX has a LOT of work to do in terms of raising its profile and creating a 'brand' and image.  $45k is a drop in the bucket towards doing that, but maybe it could at least be a partial kickoff to a marketing plan to do so.

Then why don't you foot the $45K consulting fee.

You really think spending $45K for a company to give you their opinion is actually money better spent?

You must work in the consulting industry.  How is spending $45K to "possibly" find out how we could better spend another $45K your recommended choice....You are literally suggesting spending twice as much and with no guarantee of better results.  You should really keep these types of opinions between the ears.

Actually, above was your original post. You disagreed with a civilly offered opinion from Vic, out of the blue, and told them to keep those opinions to themselves because they had the gall to post something you disagreed with.

Now you reframe it as someone has an issue being disagreed with...when it was originally your post alleging people shouldn't post certain kinds of opinions.

Geez, never would have thought $45k out of the discretionary fund would be such a lightning rod. Get over yourself and admit you don't care about the $45k either and just came here to pick a fight.

vicupstate

Quote from: jaxoNOLE on July 12, 2021, 09:27:35 PM
Quote from: JPalmer on July 12, 2021, 08:35:17 AM
Quote from: vicupstate on July 10, 2021, 10:21:12 PM
If it were me, I would have given the $45k to the CVB and ask them how they would recommend spending it. JAX has a LOT of work to do in terms of raising its profile and creating a 'brand' and image.  $45k is a drop in the bucket towards doing that, but maybe it could at least be a partial kickoff to a marketing plan to do so.

Then why don't you foot the $45K consulting fee.

You really think spending $45K for a company to give you their opinion is actually money better spent?

You must work in the consulting industry.  How is spending $45K to "possibly" find out how we could better spend another $45K your recommended choice....You are literally suggesting spending twice as much and with no guarantee of better results.  You should really keep these types of opinions between the ears.

Actually, above was your original post. You disagreed with a civilly offered opinion from Vic, out of the blue, and told them to keep those opinions to themselves because they had the gall to post something you disagreed with.

Now you reframe it as someone has an issue being disagreed with...when it was originally your post alleging people shouldn't post certain kinds of opinions.

Geez, never would have thought $45k out of the discretionary fund would be such a lightning rod. Get over yourself and admit you don't care about the $45k either and just came here to pick a fight.

Go back and re-read this thread dude. You have confused/merged my post with someone else's, most likely Peter Griffin and/or JPalmer. I didn't disagree with anyone else's opinion, I merely stated what I would have done with the $45k, if it were my decision

Below is my original post verbatim:

If it were me, I would have given the $45k to the CVB and ask them how they would recommend spending it. JAX has a LOT of work to do in terms of raising its profile and creating a 'brand' and image.  $45k is a drop in the bucket towards doing that, but maybe it could at least be a partial kickoff to a marketing plan to do so.   

Where in that post did I disagree with someone else's opinion OR say someone should not post their opinion??
"The problem with quotes on the internet is you can never be certain they're authentic." - Abraham Lincoln

vicupstate

Quote from: JPalmer on July 12, 2021, 02:04:04 PM
Again, I prefer to put money to use and not lining the pockets of consultants.  If you think spending $45k on consultants gets us any closer to the intended goal you have little grasp of financial oversight. 

How much money was wasted on feasibility studies to build an aquarium and how much closer did it get us to that outcome. 

Get over yourself and just admit you like talking issues and not solving them.

I never said to pay a consultant for anything. I said to pay a marketing firm to develop a well researched, first class marketing plan for the city. Not 'study' anything but actually produce a plan that can be executed.  Now get over yourself and realize you need to work on your reading comprehension skills.   
"The problem with quotes on the internet is you can never be certain they're authentic." - Abraham Lincoln

JPalmer

Obviously an advertising firm was engaged and a plan was drawn up based on the given budget.

This grand scheme marketing plan you are speaking of means hiring consultants/marketing firm, before any actual ad dollars are spent. 




Snaketoz

Quote from: JPalmer on July 13, 2021, 08:44:48 AM
Obviously an advertising firm was engaged and a plan was drawn up based on the given budget.

This grand scheme marketing plan you are speaking of means hiring consultants/marketing firm, before any actual ad dollars are spent.
It's unanimous.  Evidently, English is not your primary language.  Either you don't understand, or you are unable to express your points to any intelligible level.
"No amount of evidence will ever persuade an idiot."

JPalmer

My points are concise and to the point, any trouble you have understanding my last point is on you.

There is a difference between direct ad spend and engaging a firm to come up with a long-term plan.  There will be additional ad spend above and beyond any work the firm does to develop a long-term plan.

jaxoNOLE

Quote from: vicupstate on July 13, 2021, 07:36:43 AM
Quote from: jaxoNOLE on July 12, 2021, 09:27:35 PM
Quote from: JPalmer on July 12, 2021, 08:35:17 AM
Quote from: vicupstate on July 10, 2021, 10:21:12 PM
If it were me, I would have given the $45k to the CVB and ask them how they would recommend spending it. JAX has a LOT of work to do in terms of raising its profile and creating a 'brand' and image.  $45k is a drop in the bucket towards doing that, but maybe it could at least be a partial kickoff to a marketing plan to do so.

Then why don't you foot the $45K consulting fee.

You really think spending $45K for a company to give you their opinion is actually money better spent?

You must work in the consulting industry.  How is spending $45K to "possibly" find out how we could better spend another $45K your recommended choice....You are literally suggesting spending twice as much and with no guarantee of better results.  You should really keep these types of opinions between the ears.

Actually, above was your original post. You disagreed with a civilly offered opinion from Vic, out of the blue, and told them to keep those opinions to themselves because they had the gall to post something you disagreed with.

Now you reframe it as someone has an issue being disagreed with...when it was originally your post alleging people shouldn't post certain kinds of opinions.

Geez, never would have thought $45k out of the discretionary fund would be such a lightning rod. Get over yourself and admit you don't care about the $45k either and just came here to pick a fight.

Go back and re-read this thread dude. You have confused/merged my post with someone else's, most likely Peter Griffin and/or JPalmer. I didn't disagree with anyone else's opinion, I merely stated what I would have done with the $45k, if it were my decision

Below is my original post verbatim:

If it were me, I would have given the $45k to the CVB and ask them how they would recommend spending it. JAX has a LOT of work to do in terms of raising its profile and creating a 'brand' and image.  $45k is a drop in the bucket towards doing that, but maybe it could at least be a partial kickoff to a marketing plan to do so.   

Where in that post did I disagree with someone else's opinion OR say someone should not post their opinion??

Reread my post. I quoted JPalmer, whose post was in response to yours, and was responding to him.

Peter Griffin

Gonna need about 5-6 orders of Waah-burgers with french-cries in here.

Florida Power And Light

The very best places to live have learned to not promote, any propensity to promote effectively squashed.

vicupstate

Quote from: JPalmer on July 13, 2021, 08:44:48 AM
Obviously an advertising firm was engaged and a plan was drawn up based on the given budget.

This grand scheme marketing plan you are speaking of means hiring consultants/marketing firm, before any actual ad dollars are spent. 





Exactly. Which is what I meant. Just as JAX has no master plan for DT, this spending appears to be without a long term plan or long term goals. It is just spending money because its there. It could be part of a long term strategy for raising the city's profile and generating economic growth but it is just scatter shot,     
"The problem with quotes on the internet is you can never be certain they're authentic." - Abraham Lincoln

Snaketoz

Quote from: JPalmer on July 13, 2021, 09:12:03 AM
My points are concise and to the point, any trouble you have understanding my last point is on you.

There is a difference between direct ad spend and engaging a firm to come up with a long-term plan.  There will be additional ad spend above and beyond any work the firm does to develop a long-term plan.
JPalmer, reread your posts.  You seem to post contradictory posts based on your assumptions, that make absolutely no sense.  To me, they seem to be posted just for the sake of being annoying.
"No amount of evidence will ever persuade an idiot."