Jaguars New Stadium?

[Bill Hoff]

And so the dance begins..... anyone have a billion dollars to spare?

https://www.jaxdailyrecord.com/article/future-of-aging-stadium-a-concern-for-the-jaguars

[Steve]

Not a surprise, but boy do those guys like tossing a lot of balls in the air.

I think this is a key quote:

On Monday, he cautioned that new construction isn't always the answer.

"I would think that in this marketplace the first thing we would look at is a refurbishment of the existing stadium," Lamping said.

This is the path that we really need to go down. I bet all of the things being discussed (suites, press box, seating options to a degree) could be done through a renovation versus rebuild. A roof might be tougher; the renderings in the article are a sunshade versus a true roof and air conditioning the place (i.e. what Miami did).

[Adam White]

And so the dance begins..... anyone have a billion dollars to spare?

https://www.jaxdailyrecord.com/article/future-of-aging-stadium-a-concern-for-the-jaguars

Khan might. Maybe he can cut off his douchey ponytail and sell it to the highest bidder.

[JaxAvondale]

What Miami did with their stadium will be the next major renovation for the stadium.

[thelakelander]

What Miami did with their stadium will be the next major renovation for the stadium.

Stephen Ross used his own money for the $400 million renovation. They failed to secure public subsidies.

[CityLife]

What Miami did with their stadium will be the next major renovation for the stadium.

Stephen Ross used his own money for the $400 million renovation. They failed to secure public subsidies.

A major renovation of that stadium has a much bigger payoff than Jax could achieve. Ross gets $14 million per year in naming rights, compared to $4 million in Jax. Plus he has a lease from the Hurricanes, regular Super Bowl rotation, and the Orange Bowl (College Football Playoffs).

[Steve]

What Miami did with their stadium will be the next major renovation for the stadium.

Stephen Ross used his own money for the $400 million renovation. They failed to secure public subsidies.

A major renovation of that stadium has a much bigger payoff than Jax could achieve. Ross gets $14 million per year in naming rights, compared to $4 million in Jax. Plus he has a lease from the Hurricanes, regular Super Bowl rotation, and the Orange Bowl (College Football Playoffs).

Correct - that's the challenge here. The Gator Bowl is nothing compared to the Orange Bowl, and there isn't a major college team to share the space with here. And like mentioned, he's probably guaranteed 2-3 Super Bowls because of the work.

I think it's going to be tough since I do see the next stadium project being in the $150-$200 million range. It was $90 for the clubs, Daily's Place, and a few of the lighter things. Even if you call Daily's Place half of it, they spent $45 million on the clubs and a couple other things.

[KenFSU]

It's posted somewhere in the Jaguars thread, but Lamping gave a much longer, much more nuanced answer to the question in October right after Wembley fell through. Sentiment seemed to be that a new stadium didn't necessarily make sense in Jax. Seemed to be leaning much more into continuing upgrades.

[DrQue]

My complaint with the experience is the product on the field. When ticket numbers inevitably drop next year, don't blame the venue.

Its not for lack of effort or backing on Shad's behalf, and I know Lamping has different priorities in organization, but the point remains that the team is 32-80 since Shad took over.  We're averaging less than 5 wins per year with one playoff showing in 7 years. Optically now is not the time to start a public dialogue over more taxpayer subsidies.

[downtownbrown]

At some point Jacksonville will grow weary of Khan's and Lamping's veiled threats and blackmail. This whole story plant is about greasing the taxpayer for more "partnership".

[pierre]

What Miami did with their stadium will be the next major renovation for the stadium.

I am almost certain we would see something like that. Reconfiguring the seating capacity, adding the covers over the seating. And more premium seating.

And it will not be cheap.

[Adam White]

My complaint with the experience is the product on the field. When ticket numbers inevitably drop next year, don't blame the venue.

Its not for lack of effort or backing on Shad's behalf, and I know Lamping has different priorities in organization, but the point remains that the team is 32-80 since Shad took over.  We're averaging less than 5 wins per year with one playoff showing in 7 years. Optically now is not the time to start a public dialogue over more taxpayer subsidies.

It's a re-building year(s).

[KenFSU]

What Miami did with their stadium will be the next major renovation for the stadium.

I am almost certain we would see something like that. Reconfiguring the seating capacity, adding the covers over the seating. And more premium seating.

And it will not be cheap.

The Miami stadium renovation cost $450 million.

I wouldn't support replacing the stadium, but I'd be ok with reducing and reconfiguring seating (67,000 is still too big to create genuine ticket demand in this market), adding some form of shade (August and September are miserable in the stadium), and additional additional concessions (it's pretty impossible to get food during halftime without missing the first few minutes of the third quarter).

Particularly if the Jags split the cost, like they've done in the past.

Would be a much better investment than spending $500 million to relocate the prison.

The monkey wrench is always going to be the Florida-Georgia game. Severely limits what we can do with the stadium long term if every single year, we need to squeeze 15,000 extra seats into the venue (at nearly $2 million in taxpayer expenses, annually).

[I-10east]

New stadium talk is just all watercooler hot air, similar to the talk of building a new jail. Stadium renovations would make much more sense (not that I see anything wrong with the stadium).

[MusicMan]

"My complaint with the experience is the product on the field. When ticket numbers inevitably drop next year, don't blame the venue.

Its not for lack of effort or backing on Shad's behalf, and I know Lamping has different priorities in organization, but the point remains that the team is 32-80 since Shad took over.  We're averaging less than 5 wins per year with one playoff showing in 7 years. Optically now is not the time to start a public dialogue over more taxpayer subsidies. "

100% agree.  At these "press conferences" does anyone in attendance point that out to Lamping, Khan, or any other entity representing the team?

And next year looks like it will be a continuation of the losing we are unfortunately accustomed to.

Re-reading the article is mind bending.... Put a winner on the field guys!  Stop worrying about the stadium and focus on the team! You keep winning 5 games per year and no one will be IN the stadium!