Jaguars State of the Franchise 2018

Started by KenFSU, April 15, 2018, 10:39:57 AM

Adam White

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Quote from: Steve on October 19, 2018, 09:33:39 PM
Quote from: Adam White on October 19, 2018, 05:45:41 PM
Quote from: Steve on October 19, 2018, 03:55:46 PM
The NFL's economic model is basically Socialism, with revenue sharing on almost everything (premium seats and local sponsorships are the main exceptions).


Tell that to the workers - the players. Revenue sharing by capitalists isn't even remotely socialism.

If you study the economic revenue sharing by the 32 owners, it is. Not talking about the players cut.

The NFL basically operates as a cartel. There is nothing 'socialist' about profit-sharing between capitalists.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2013/01/14/why-american-sports-are-organised-as-cartels/#56c5f3f872a4
"If you're going to play it out of tune, then play it out of tune properly."

ProjectMaximus

Quote from: JaxAvondale on October 19, 2018, 09:51:06 PM
I agree that the next step for the Jags/NFL is to have them play in back to back weeks in London. I think that it is likely in 2019 with the Jags scheduled to play the AFC West. Both the Raiders and Chargers are in temporary homes. So, I assume that they would be fine giving up a home game.

Until Khan and Spurs Chairman workout their issues, the easiest solution is for the Jags to play a pre-season game in London against one of the other teams that are giving up a home game. Khan in return should send Fulham on a US Tour over here for a pre-season matches at TIAA. An EPL team on pre-season tour would generate much more revenue for the city than a pre-season game.

That's mighty kind of you to call Fulham an EPL team. As a fan I appreciate the compliment, but we squandered our chance to even beat lowly Cardiff today... :-[

I agree with you that I wouldn't be surprised if we have a back-to-back in London next year. I think it would have to be a home and away game...dont think Khan is quite ready to take away a second home game from Jax.

Kerry

My guess - Khan has worked out a relocation package that doesn't require him to own the stadium.  Team is winning - offer to buy stadium withdrawn - team loses.  Coincidence?
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pierre

Quote from: Kerry on October 24, 2018, 12:12:33 AM
My guess - Khan has worked out a relocation package that doesn't require him to own the stadium.  Team is winning - offer to buy stadium withdrawn - team loses.  Coincidence?

I just want to make sure I understand.

The team is losing because Khan isn't buying Wembley?

Like intentionally?

Steve

Quote from: Kerry on October 24, 2018, 12:12:33 AM
My guess - Khan has worked out a relocation package that doesn't require him to own the stadium.  Team is winning - offer to buy stadium withdrawn - team loses.  Coincidence?

Please tell me you don't believe this. If you seriously do, I'd suggest calling the FBI. Given the amount of money that's gambled on professional sports in multiple states, if you have reason to believe the Jaguars are throwing games (or at least trying to lose a la the Cleveland Indians in Major League) then you should report that as a crime.

Snufflee

The team is losing because they aren't very good. IMHO Coughlin and company tried to build an old school team in the modern NFL which doesn't work anymore.

Fournette, huge contracts to Linder and Norwell, are holdovers from an era where the power running game won Super Bowls. We have no move tight end no receiver to move the safeties out of the box and a QB that is mentally weak when crap goes wrong. The current rule set even if the defense plays amazing leaves this team as 8 - 8, maybe 9 - 7 in a weak division. Time to move on.
And so it goes

Kerry

Quote from: Steve on October 24, 2018, 08:46:47 AM
Quote from: Kerry on October 24, 2018, 12:12:33 AM
My guess - Khan has worked out a relocation package that doesn't require him to own the stadium.  Team is winning - offer to buy stadium withdrawn - team loses.  Coincidence?

Please tell me you don't believe this. If you seriously do, I'd suggest calling the FBI. Given the amount of money that's gambled on professional sports in multiple states, if you have reason to believe the Jaguars are throwing games (or at least trying to lose a la the Cleveland Indians in Major League) then you should report that as a crime.

No I don't actually believe it.  But it does make one wonder how teams can be perpetually bad.
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pierre

Quote from: Kerry on October 24, 2018, 11:20:24 AM
Quote from: Steve on October 24, 2018, 08:46:47 AM
Quote from: Kerry on October 24, 2018, 12:12:33 AM
My guess - Khan has worked out a relocation package that doesn't require him to own the stadium.  Team is winning - offer to buy stadium withdrawn - team loses.  Coincidence?

Please tell me you don't believe this. If you seriously do, I'd suggest calling the FBI. Given the amount of money that's gambled on professional sports in multiple states, if you have reason to believe the Jaguars are throwing games (or at least trying to lose a la the Cleveland Indians in Major League) then you should report that as a crime.

No I don't actually believe it.  But it does make one wonder how teams can be perpetually bad.

It's not that complicated. It's a QB driven league. If you have a good quarterback, you will be competitive. See Green Bay, New Orleans and New England for the past decade plus.

You may catch lightning in a bottle like the Eagles and Jags did last year where your defense plays at an elite level and your quarterback is good in stretches. But reality sets in at a point.

Steve

Quote from: Kerry on October 24, 2018, 11:20:24 AM
Quote from: Steve on October 24, 2018, 08:46:47 AM
Quote from: Kerry on October 24, 2018, 12:12:33 AM
My guess - Khan has worked out a relocation package that doesn't require him to own the stadium.  Team is winning - offer to buy stadium withdrawn - team loses.  Coincidence?

Please tell me you don't believe this. If you seriously do, I'd suggest calling the FBI. Given the amount of money that's gambled on professional sports in multiple states, if you have reason to believe the Jaguars are throwing games (or at least trying to lose a la the Cleveland Indians in Major League) then you should report that as a crime.

No I don't actually believe it.  But it does make one wonder how teams can be perpetually bad.

Please meet the Cleveland Browns, the Green Bay Packers between 1969 and 1992, and many other teams. The Jaguars run of awfulness since 2008 is FAR from record setting.

pierre

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Quote from: Steve on October 24, 2018, 01:23:58 PM
Quote from: Kerry on October 24, 2018, 11:20:24 AM
Quote from: Steve on October 24, 2018, 08:46:47 AM
Quote from: Kerry on October 24, 2018, 12:12:33 AM
My guess - Khan has worked out a relocation package that doesn't require him to own the stadium.  Team is winning - offer to buy stadium withdrawn - team loses.  Coincidence?

Please tell me you don't believe this. If you seriously do, I'd suggest calling the FBI. Given the amount of money that's gambled on professional sports in multiple states, if you have reason to believe the Jaguars are throwing games (or at least trying to lose a la the Cleveland Indians in Major League) then you should report that as a crime.

No I don't actually believe it.  But it does make one wonder how teams can be perpetually bad.

Please meet the Cleveland Browns, the Green Bay Packers between 1969 and 1992, and many other teams. The Jaguars run of awfulness since 2008 is FAR from record setting.

The Jaguars are struggling in 2018 and have as many wins (3) as the Browns have had since the end of the 2015 season.

Even better. Since Thanksgiving of 2014, the Browns have 6 wins. They are 6-53-1.

KenFSU

Quote from: KenFSU on October 04, 2018, 12:33:57 PM
Not sure what the implications are, but apparently the city is rezoning the entire Shipyards/Met Park/Lot J area as "central business district."

Details from the Daily Record this morning:

https://www.jaxdailyrecord.com/article/city-wants-to-rezone-shipyards-property

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Quote from: KenFSU on November 12, 2018, 10:48:08 AM
Quote from: KenFSU on October 04, 2018, 12:33:57 PM
Not sure what the implications are, but apparently the city is rezoning the entire Shipyards/Met Park/Lot J area as "central business district."

Details from the Daily Record this morning:

https://www.jaxdailyrecord.com/article/city-wants-to-rezone-shipyards-property
Wow! Busy busy busy!! Let's get a move on now before we all are incinerated. There's no guarantee for the future. Love what I am seeing going on in the urban core/downtown Jax.
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Kerry

The City should take this opportunity to scrap segregated zoning completely and start implementing a Smart Code.  Regulate the physical realm, not the uses.

http://smartcodecentral.com
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JaGoaT

That area will be unrecognizable in 10 years! Very exciting!

downtownbrown

that's what they said 10 years ago...