Did JTA let one get away, or is Town Center just STUPID?

[Ernest Street]

Public transportation "Snub Snobs" in their huge SUVs (shopping wagons) will be changing their tune as stores at the town center close.

[copperfiend]

It's successful, but logistically, it's a nightmare & I avoid it every chance I get (valet parking for stores available at regency? Comon!)

Which stores at Regency are you talking about?

[coredumped]

Off the top of my head both places have Dillard's, Target, Chick-fil-A, Panda Express, and every major cell phone carrier in the US:)

For me, there's no reason to go to the town center, except that it's closer. Regency has everything I need, so for Christmas shopping I drive the extra and go to regency, just so I know I won't get rained on and I'll have a parking spot.

[copperfiend]

I don't think anybody is getting valet parking to go to those places. The valet parking are at the restaurants and those aren't located by the stores you mentioned with the exception of Dillards. And I think the Dillards at Regency is an outlet store.

[Doctor_K]

^ Yeah.  Cheesecake Factory and Maggiano's definitely have it.  I think the Capital Grille et al at the far end of the complex also offers it.  Otherwise, it's free-for-all on the parking.  Dillards sticks out as a stand-alone, so if anywhere has decent parking at that place, it's Dillards.

A parking deck would've been nice, I'll admit.

[Captain Zissou]

^ I have posted this earlier, but the site plans show that a possible parking deck will be added in phase 3 to go between Dillards and Cheesecake Factory/ Barnes & Noble.  I'm not saying this is a sure thing, there is just a dotted line for a "parking structure" on the plans.

[copperfiend]

I have seen it also. I think there is a hotel in there somewhere too. Maybe a Westin.

[coredumped]

"Free for all" parking describes it best - that plaza is a mess! Valet parking is available only at select locations, but have you tried to get parking at say panera, it's horrible.

Like I said, I can't stand it and avoid it at all costs.

[Jason]

Ock's trolly idea is sounding better by the day.

[Doctor_K]

I'd love to see a trolley up the main 'streets' of the SJTC.  That'd be a really nice addition.

[CS Foltz]

Ock's trolley idea is a better than the traffic issue's going on right now. It is only a question of time before SJTC starts to wither and die off! Traffic is an issue that can not be cured with the existing layout and whoever planned it that way should be forced to walk the whole cotton pickin thing! This is just one more example of developers gone wild and money going into pockets. When will we learn?

[ErikSetzer]

While I'm good with walking all around the SJTC and actually enjoy it, I think a shuttle or trolley would be great to get more people to more shops, which would translate to more money for the area.

It's becoming slightly friendlier to get to in terms of public transit (buses, anyway), with a handful of lines now going near or to it.  But it's still a bit of a problem, and It's ridiculous that they'd not want anyone's money.  Why would people loiter when, frankly, there's not much of anywhere to just "hang out"?  If I wanted to do that, I'd go over to Tinseltown and the surrounding restaurants, catch a movie and then hang out at the Ale House or Mellow Mushroom with some friends for the next few hours.

[buckethead]

SJTC has a train that runs on a regular basis. You must fit in a small seat.

[CS Foltz]

SJTC was constructed without any idea regarding masstransit! I love all of the parking lots which encourages "DRIVING" and all of that asphalt which does a world of good as far as storm runoff but hay! That's why we have retention ponds right? Town Center is just a developers money maker and that's stupid from a long range point of view and JTA just flat out blew it! Both party's are dummy's!

[north miami]

Going back to page one and Ocklawaha'a first post: the aerial

The patch of pine trees,oh so perfectly laid out in staight lines- remnant of the once sprawling pine plantation and timber production.
Too bad we went from wood lot to parking lot so quickly.