Upcoming concerts at Daily's Place

[MusicMan]

Absolutely nothing stopping Tacachale and his friends from presenting concerts at the Moran Theater at the Times Union. Seats 3000.

If there is a market for it as he claims then there will be someone who they can partner with to present all the acts he describes.

Or call SMG straight up and put a proposal in front of them.  Moran is available a couple hundred nights per year last time I checked.

St Augustine amphitheater seats how many?  Unity Plaza?  Can you do a for profit event there?

[Snaketoz]

"Those that can, DO, those who can't, bitch."

[marcuscnelson]

Absolutely nothing stopping Tacachale and his friends from presenting concerts at the Moran Theater at the Times Union. Seats 3000.

If there is a market for it as he claims then there will be someone who they can partner with to present all the acts he describes.

Or call SMG straight up and put a proposal in front of them.  Moran is available a couple hundred nights per year last time I checked.

St Augustine amphitheater seats how many?  Unity Plaza?  Can you do a for profit event there?

Would Moran support indie rock acts? I don't just mean technically, but from an idealistic perspective? Moran's upcoming events are Disney's The Lion King, the Symphony Orchestra, Dancing with the Stars, and Steve Martin. Is SMG going to allow some indie rock band to share a stage with those guys?

St. Augustine I could imagine working, but it's so far away from DT, It's almost not the same market.

Unity I would ask about actual technical support. It's outdoors, with no cover at all. Is there any parking or public transportation point that could support the (hopeful) crowds? Are there dining options close enough to keep people nearby or occupied before and after the show? It wouldn't be impossible, but it'd be necessary to consider.

What I don't understand is, there are so, so many abandoned and unoccupied buildings in the core and close to it, that just need someone to be willing to make it a space for indie, and get people into that space.

"Those that can, DO, those who can't, bitch."

I keep saying, it'd be great if there was a way everyone could put some money in/invest, and just take action to make something happen downtown.

[jaxjaguar]

I could be remembering incorrectly, but I believe Jack White performed in Moran a few years ago.

[KenFSU]

What I don't understand is, there are so, so many abandoned and unoccupied buildings in the core and close to it, that just need someone to be willing to make it a space for indie, and get people into that space.

Even though downtown Jacksonville has an embarrassment of great venues, I tend to agree that very few are a great fit for indie.

Would love to see something analogous to State Theatre or Jannus Landing in St. Pete.

[JaxAvondale]

What I don't understand is, there are so, so many abandoned and unoccupied buildings in the core and close to it, that just need someone to be willing to make it a space for indie, and get people into that space.

Even though downtown Jacksonville has an embarrassment of great venues, I tend to agree that very few are a great fit for indie.

Would love to see something analogous to State Theatre or Jannus Landing in St. Pete.

Agreed! There aren't many venues downtown where a band like Beach House will be able to perform.

[CityLife]

What I don't understand is, there are so, so many abandoned and unoccupied buildings in the core and close to it, that just need someone to be willing to make it a space for indie, and get people into that space.

Even though downtown Jacksonville has an embarrassment of great venues, I tend to agree that very few are a great fit for indie.

Would love to see something analogous to State Theatre or Jannus Landing in St. Pete.

Downtown Jacksonville has sufficient venues to accommodate your more successful indie type acts, though I hesitate to even call a lot of the larger bands like War on Drugs, LCD Soundsystem, Arcade Fire, Tame Impala, Modest Mouse, etc "indie acts" in the traditional sense. These bands are all over Fallon, Colbert, SNL, satellite radio, Spotify, your local bars and restaurant playlists, and so on. They play huge venues all over the country, and to hundreds of thousands of people at Coachella, Bonnaroo, Glastonbury, etc.

Between The Florida Theater, Moran, and Daily's, DT Jax should be able to accomodate the larger acts. It's true that there isn't a 1,000-1,200 person venue to accomodate your mid-tier acts (Orange Peel in Asheville is a great example), but that doesn't mean that the other venues should not be booking acts in their realm. The Ryman Auditorium in Nashville is a great model for the Florida Theater and/or Moran Theater to follow. It is a historic theater with 2,300 seats-400 more than FT and 600 less than Moran. They mix in country, bluesy-alt country, comedy, and also get a decent amount of indie/rock bands. This spring they have Dan Auerbach (Black Keys), Noel Gallagahers Band, MGMT, The Decemberists, Modest Mouse, David Byrne, Jimmy Eat World, and Fleet Foxes. Demand is so high that Fleet Foxes, Modest Mouse, and Decemberists are playing 2 nights. None are earth shattering acts, but in comparison to the Florida Theaters current legit bookings of zero, impressive.

The Florida Theater is a beautiful historic venue, located accross the street from one of (if not) Jax's best bars, in close walking distance to hotels, dining, and other bars. Most cities in America would love to have it. There is absolutely no reason that it should be doing this poorly with it's bookings. There is also no excuse for Jax to be getting beaten so badly by SJC (Ampitheater/PV Music Hall) with its combination of venues.

For those saying "do something", I don't live in Jax anymore and have other career ambitions than opening a music venue. What are you doing?

[Tacachale]

What I don't understand is, there are so, so many abandoned and unoccupied buildings in the core and close to it, that just need someone to be willing to make it a space for indie, and get people into that space.

Even though downtown Jacksonville has an embarrassment of great venues, I tend to agree that very few are a great fit for indie.

Would love to see something analogous to State Theatre or Jannus Landing in St. Pete.

Downtown Jacksonville has sufficient venues to accommodate your more successful indie type acts, though I hesitate to even call a lot of the larger bands like War on Drugs, LCD Soundsystem, Arcade Fire, Tame Impala, Modest Mouse, etc "indie acts" in the traditional sense. These bands are all over Fallon, Colbert, SNL, satellite radio, Spotify, your local bars and restaurant playlists, and so on. They play huge venues all over the country, and to hundreds of thousands of people at Coachella, Bonnaroo, Glastonbury, etc.

Between The Florida Theater, Moran, and Daily's, DT Jax should be able to accomodate the larger acts. It's true that there isn't a 1,000-1,200 person venue to accomodate your mid-tier acts (Orange Peel in Asheville is a great example), but that doesn't mean that the other venues should not be booking acts in their realm. The Ryman Auditorium in Nashville is a great model for the Florida Theater and/or Moran Theater to follow. It is a historic theater with 2,300 seats-400 more than FT and 600 less than Moran. They mix in country, bluesy-alt country, comedy, and also get a decent amount of indie/rock bands. This spring they have Dan Auerbach (Black Keys), Noel Gallagahers Band, MGMT, The Decemberists, Modest Mouse, David Byrne, Jimmy Eat World, and Fleet Foxes. Demand is so high that Fleet Foxes, Modest Mouse, and Decemberists are playing 2 nights. None are earth shattering acts, but in comparison to the Florida Theaters current legit bookings of zero, impressive.

The Florida Theater is a beautiful historic venue, located accross the street from one of (if not) Jax's best bars, in close walking distance to hotels, dining, and other bars. There is absolutely no reason that it should be doing this poorly with it's bookings. There is also no excuse for Jax to be getting beaten so badly by SJC (Ampitheater/PV Music Hall) with its combination of venues.

For those saying "do something", I don't live in Jax anymore and have other career ambitions than opening a music venue. What are you doing?

The fact that St. Augustine Amphitheater (4000 seats) does schedule larger shows of this type is proof that it would be successful at Daily's Place (5500 seats), if the management would step out of its box. The fact that Ponte Vedra Concert Hall (capacity 900), a box with no seats in the middle of nowhere, routinely gets indie shows of its size range, proves that it would work in Downtown Jacksonville, including in the venues we already have. And the fact that both SAA and PVCH are run by the local gov means there's no excuse for the city-run venues like Daily's Place and Florida Theater.

Part of the pitch for Daily's Place was that it would let us book shows that don't typically stop in this market due to a lack of appropriate venues (especially venues that aren't 45 miles from Downtown like St. Augustine Amphitheater). But pretty much all we've gotten are safe bet nostalgia shows that were coming to Jax venues already.

[CityLife]

Nailed it^

Here's a big problem with the Florida Theater. Its Board of Directors is almost fully comprised of corporate partners. I've sat on several non-profit boards, and it is very common for corporate partners to be empty chairs. While I'm sure that many of them are music lovers and cultured people, I'd also venture to guess that many aren't, or are older people that think Air Supply/Foreigner type bookings are good. How are there not more people from the cultural/creative community in Jax on the board?

http://floridatheatre.com/about-ft/board-of-directors/

[TimmyB]

Downtown Jacksonville has sufficient venues to accommodate your more successful indie type acts, though I hesitate to even call a lot of the larger bands like War on Drugs, LCD Soundsystem, Arcade Fire, Tame Impala, Modest Mouse, etc "indie acts" in the traditional sense. These bands are all over Fallon, Colbert, SNL, satellite radio, Spotify, your local bars and restaurant playlists, and so on. They play huge venues all over the country, and to hundreds of thousands of people at Coachella, Bonnaroo, Glastonbury, etc.

Thank you.  And, therein lies the problem.  Anyone who listens to Alt Nation on Sirius/XM or a channel like iHeart Eclectic could rattle off 25 bands such as these that they would love to see playing in Jax in a smaller than arena venue. be it a 5000 seat Daily's Place or a 2000 seat theater.  One of the things we wanted in picking our destination for retirement was the city had to be large enough to have a lot of great cultural things, such as concerts.  We have been largely disappointed at the lack of shows so far.

It's been said on other threads regarding Jacksonville as a whole, but this is where NOT having a large, well-known university nearby really hurts us.  Culturally, we appear to be far behind where we could/should be.

[Adam White]

Downtown Jacksonville has sufficient venues to accommodate your more successful indie type acts, though I hesitate to even call a lot of the larger bands like War on Drugs, LCD Soundsystem, Arcade Fire, Tame Impala, Modest Mouse, etc "indie acts" in the traditional sense.

None of them are indie bands anymore - they're all on major record labels.

[MusicMan]

Probably old news but Fleet Foxes playing St Aug Amph Mar 2......


"None of them are indie bands anymore - they're all on major record labels."  But they get no airtime on local radio?  Why not?



Also Timmy B says: " One of the things we wanted in picking our destination for retirement was the city had to be large enough to have a lot of great cultural things, such as concerts.  We have been largely disappointed at the lack of shows so far.

It's been said on other threads regarding Jacksonville as a whole, but this is where NOT having a large, well-known university nearby really hurts us.  Culturally, we appear to be far behind where we could/should be."

I suggest you go see the Jacksonville Symphony.  We do about 100 concerts a year and have something for almost every taste.  I think it is safe to say it provides world class symphonic entertainment (LIVE MUSIC) in Downtown Jacksonville for a reasonable price. Indie Rock, no. But good nonetheless!
A David Bowie Tribute is coming up pretty soon. Also a show with hip hop artist Wyclef Jean at Daily's Place. That should float your boat.  You can find it at:   JaxSymphony.org

[KenFSU]

Probably old news but Fleet Foxes playing St Aug Amph Mar 2......


"None of them are indie bands anymore - they're all on major record labels."  But they get no airtime on local radio?  Why not?



Also Timmy B says: " One of the things we wanted in picking our destination for retirement was the city had to be large enough to have a lot of great cultural things, such as concerts.  We have been largely disappointed at the lack of shows so far.

It's been said on other threads regarding Jacksonville as a whole, but this is where NOT having a large, well-known university nearby really hurts us.  Culturally, we appear to be far behind where we could/should be."

I suggest you go see the Jacksonville Symphony.  We do about 100 concerts a year and have something for almost every taste.  I think it is safe to say it provides world class symphonic entertainment (LIVE MUSIC) in Downtown Jacksonville for a reasonable price. Indie Rock, no. But good nonetheless!
A David Bowie Tribute is coming up pretty soon. Also a show with hip hop artist Wyclef Jean at Daily's Place. That should float your boat.  You can find it at:   JaxSymphony.org

Don't forget Raiders of the Lost Ark on the 16th/17th.

[Lostwave]

"None of them are indie bands anymore - they're all on major record labels."  But they get no airtime on local radio?  Why not?

Because we don't have local radio here that plays music.  We have tons of Religion stations that are local.  The rest are owned by national companies.  Most of our radio doesn't even have local DJs.  So because of that all of our radio is on the pop spectrum... billboard chart stuff, and Indie/College radio doesn't fit that bucket. 

I do think if there were a college station here it would do pretty well, because even though the majority of people like the tops of the charts.  There are enough people here that a single Indie/College station would do well, just not as well as a standard Cox or Clear Channel formula that we have tons of.   

Point being, indie stations aren't as profitable.  In Seattle there are several and they have been around forever.  But they aren't necessarily profitable.  I know that 1 is funded by the university and 1 is funded by donations.  It sure would be nice if we had one though.

[TimmyB]

"None of them are indie bands anymore - they're all on major record labels."  But they get no airtime on local radio?  Why not?

Because we don't have local radio here that plays music.  We have tons of Religion stations that are local.  The rest are owned by national companies.  Most of our radio doesn't even have local DJs.  So because of that all of our radio is on the pop spectrum... billboard chart stuff, and Indie/College radio doesn't fit that bucket. 

I do think if there were a college station here it would do pretty well, because even though the majority of people like the tops of the charts.  There are enough people here that a single Indie/College station would do well, just not as well as a standard Cox or Clear Channel formula that we have tons of.   

Point being, indie stations aren't as profitable.  In Seattle there are several and they have been around forever.  But they aren't necessarily profitable.  I know that 1 is funded by the university and 1 is funded by donations.  It sure would be nice if we had one though.

I asked the question earlier, kinda tongue-in-cheek, but seriously, people really listen to FM radio for their music?  I mean, to me, that's the equivalent of people that have nothing but over-the-air TV at their house.  How many people actually do that?  Maybe 10%?  People pay for cable, satellite, smart services like roku and the rest because they want more (much more) than OTA television can bring them.  Why would something as important as music be any different?  And, you hit the nail on the head with corporate ownership of radio.  I actually taught a mini-unit on media to my middle school students for the past three years and that was one of the things that we discussed, how their music identity was being shaped for them by someone living far away that decided for them what they should be listening to.

Either way, I am sure the percentage of people who listen to alt rock in Jax are significantly higher than the representation we are seeing in booked concerts down here.