New owner of Fans & Stoves building has big plans

[civil42806]

Calm down dude.
I was just curious if someone in the forum had some behind the scenes info, as they sometimes do.
I've never seen such a ridiculous over reaction on this forum before.

Seems like you need to go outside or something.

Never seen such an overreaction before on this board?

Then you have never seen this thread!!!

http://www.metrojacksonville.com/forum/index.php?topic=4577.0

Its hilarious

[Captain Zissou]

^There went a half hour of my day.  What a great thread that was.

[johnnyliar]

Haha that was before my time.
But i'm enjoying reading through it!

[Bill Hoff]

For those interested.....

Fans & Stoves, the brand, is still looking for a new spot to land.

However, a handful of the longtime antique vendors who have sold at Fans & Stoves for years will be opening their own antique shop across the street, next to Birdies. Should be open in March.

They're thinking about staying open late too, to accomdate the nightlife crowd. Should be cool.

Update: Fans & Stoves, the brand, will be moving just around the corner: 800 Lomax.

[johnnyliar]

That's great news!

[Know Growth]

Back in the day,my wife actually sold fans there. Made good $$$

Does that makes us 'Ol Timers'? 

So interesting to witness neighborhood events over time.

[FlaBoy]

http://www.bizjournals.com/jacksonville/news/2016/02/11/why-a-miami-developer-is-taking-interest-in.html

Any idea what he will be doing with 2008 Riverside? I always thought residential made more sense there than office space.

[Steve]

^Many of the tenants there are relatively new (I know the Pediatric Dentist is). This one might just be purely long-term investment.

[Sentient]

I think I'm hoping more for a retailer than another restaurant in the area.
Anyone have any idea who's considering moving in?

I hear strong rumors of a multi hundred seat restaurant heading to this space?  Other thoughts?

[MusicMan]

Nope. No parking

[Non-RedNeck Westsider]

Nope. No parking

And a million voices were silenced in 4 syllables...

Why is this concept so difficult to understand?

You can make money with a restaurant.  The higher quality the food, the smaller your margins. 

You can make exponentially better money with a restaurant that serves liquor. 

Not only does it allow the chef a little more leeway to be creative in his menu, but it also offers the restaurant a fighting chance to sustain itself past that dreaded 3 year mark.

The majority of these owners don't want large restaurants just to own a large restaurant;  They just want to hit the minimum seating threshold to be allowed to sell liquor and make a decent profit.

There are quite a few posters on here who have been banging this drum for a while, but I guess it bears repeating.

A lot of the energy put into fighting these perceived:  parking issues, too-large development issues, lack of existing build-out issues, etc... would be put to much better use in fighting the state minimums for liquor sales rather than fighting the entrepreneurs who are only trying to meet the threshold of a made-up number that is set too high to be realistically achieved in the majority of re-build work in a neighborhood such as Riverside.

[Know Growth]

From now on let's stop worrying about parking, just go back to what the COJ basically applied to the Ortega Boat Yard Condo Conversion that politically,was just outside RAP Boundary and related scrutiny and involvement. Easy!-just let parking go where it may,adjacent areas,after all,the overflow is only during peak times..... let 'er Fly!   

[ProjectMaximus]

I think I'm hoping more for a retailer than another restaurant in the area.
Anyone have any idea who's considering moving in?

I hear strong rumors of a multi hundred seat restaurant heading to this space?  Other thoughts?

I am aware of a potential tenant that would immediately become my go to spot in the urban core...although they would be trying a new concept in this space that would be more alcohol-focused. That's all I will say for the folks who know me and know what type of food I like...I will not be giving anymore clues lol.

[MusicMan]

I apologize. I was trying to be funny. I'm mostly a free market build what you want person, and I agree the perceived lack of parking is something many areas would be glad to put up with. This neighborhood was designed in the 1920's and we just have to make it work best we can.

[Non-RedNeck Westsider]

I apologize. I was trying to be funny. I'm mostly a free market build what you want person, and I agree the perceived lack of parking is something many areas would be glad to put up with. This neighborhood was designed in the 1920's and we just have to make it work best we can.

No worries.  You may have been kidding around, but unfortunately there are thousands who say the same things and are dead-fucking serious. 

For whatever reasons, people get absolutely mortified over this 150 seat # that is completely arbitrary and also a capacity and not normal. 

I'm sure the same people who bitch the most are the same people who bring guests to places such as Mojo, Mellow, Blacksheep, etc... 

If they would/could quit the in-fighting and actually try to solve the originating problem (an arbitrary seat minimum), it would be a  win for both the consumers and the neighborhood.