Another Shooting: San Bernardino California

[Adam White]

What was reported tonight, something like 366 shootings this year over 330 days or something like that and the President has a "few ways to slow it down". What an insult to the families of those killed, he now has a plan? Where was he earlier?

Have you not been listening to everything he has been saying after each and every mass shooting?

Example:

This is a political choice that we make to allow this to happen every few months in America.  We collectively are answerable to those families who lose their loved ones because of our inaction.  When Americans are killed in mine disasters, we work to make mines safer.  When Americans are killed in floods and hurricanes, we make communities safer.  When roads are unsafe, we fix them to reduce auto fatalities.  We have seatbelt laws because we know it saves lives.  So the notion that gun violence is somehow different, that our freedom and our Constitution prohibits any modest regulation of how we use a deadly weapon, when there are law-abiding gun owners all across the country who could hunt and protect their families and do everything they do under such regulations doesn't make sense.

So, tonight, as those of us who are lucky enough to hug our kids a little closer are thinking about the families who aren't so fortunate, I'd ask the American people to think about how they can get our government to change these laws, and to save lives, and to let young people grow up.  And that will require a change of politics on this issue.  And it will require that the American people, individually, whether you are a Democrat or a Republican or an independent, when you decide to vote for somebody, are making a determination as to whether this cause of continuing death for innocent people should be a relevant factor in your decision.  If you think this is a problem, then you should expect your elected officials to reflect your views.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2015/10/01/statement-president-shootings-umpqua-community-college-roseburg-oregon

In a brief preview of an interview with CBS that was set to air on Thursday morning, Obama reiterated his call for increased gun-safety laws, stronger background checks, and a ban on gun purchases for people on the TSA's no-fly list.

http://uk.businessinsider.com/obama-san-bernardino-shooting-2015-12?r=US&IR=T

[Dapperdan]

Husband and wife, devout Muslims, house littered with IED's. I think everyone can add one and one together here.

[johnnyliar]

What was reported tonight, something like 366 shootings this year over 330 days or something like that and the President has a "few ways to slow it down". What an insult to the families of those killed, he now has a plan? Where was he earlier?

You do realize he faces opposition on gun control from the majority of the senate, right?

[finehoe]

Where was he earlier?

Being blocked by Republicans in Congress.

[fsquid]

Husband and wife, devout Muslims, house littered with IED's. I think everyone can add one and one together here.

it is what it is.

[coredumped]

Where was he earlier?

Being blocked by Republicans in Congress.

Oh not this again - doesn't CA have some of the toughest gun laws in the country? Behind Chicago of course.

[Adam White]

Where was he earlier?

Being blocked by Republicans in Congress.

Oh not this again - doesn't CA have some of the toughest gun laws in the country? Behind Chicago of course.

Apparently not so strict that a couple of what appear to be religious extremist terrorists couldn't buy guns and go on a shooting spree.

[finehoe]

doesn't CA have some of the toughest gun laws in the country?

No, it doesn't.  But it's irrelevant anyway, because mtraininjax was talking about the President, not the governor of California.

[Tacachale]

doesn't CA have some of the toughest gun laws in the country?

No, it doesn't.  But it's irrelevant anyway, because mtraininjax was talking about the President, not the governor of California.

Yes, it does.

http://gunlawscorecard.org/

[BridgeTroll]

Pretty sure the firearms restrictions are pretty tough in Paris too...

[Non-RedNeck Westsider]

Pretty sure the firearms restrictions are pretty tough in Paris too...

Perhaps thats why they don't have a mass shooting daily in france.

Size matters.  And I'm pretty sure we're a bit more diverse here as well.  So apples and not apples.

[finehoe]

Perhaps thats why they don't have a mass shooting daily in france.

Exactly.  Based on numbers from The Washington Post, the U.S. averaged 3.2 gun-related homicides per 100k people  – the overwhelming leader in the modern world. How many did France average? A grand total of .06 gun-related homicides per 100k people. Geographic size is irrelevant.

In fact, the United States averages more gun-related deaths in just one week than France will for the entire year... including this attack.

It would take a terrorist attack of the magnitude they just experienced to happen practically every week to even come close to the rate of ordinary gun violence we experience in the United States every single year.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/special/nation/gun-homicides-ownership/table/

[coredumped]

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/heres-a-map-of-all-the-mass-shootings-in-2015/#.VmBMKkoTC

Yawn, most of those were domestic, meaning, they could have also been committed with a kitchen knife. We'e already banned murder, people still do it. Banning guns won't stop it.

And 3D printers can print guns, shall we ban those too? What about instructions on wikipedia, let's ban that also!

Where will it stop with you nanny-state folks?

[acme54321]

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/heres-a-map-of-all-the-mass-shootings-in-2015/#.VmBMKkoTC

Yawn, most of those were domestic, meaning, they could have also been committed with a kitchen knife. We'e already banned murder, people still do it. Banning guns won't stop it.

And 3D printers can print guns, shall we ban those too? What about instructions on wikipedia, let's ban that also!

Where will it stop with you nanny-state folks?

I want to know why there hasn't been any outrage over the two "mass shootings" that have happened here in the last month!

[Adam White]

Pretty sure the firearms restrictions are pretty tough in Paris too...

Perhaps thats why they don't have a mass shooting daily in france.

Size matters.  And I'm pretty sure we're a bit more diverse here as well.  So apples and not apples.

Size matters, but not when considering rate. And yes, the USA is a bit more ethnically diverse.