EverBank Field Development Renderings

Started by Metro Jacksonville, November 12, 2015, 06:20:01 AM

brainstormer

I was a naysayer, but admit that the newest design looks pretty cool. I like the use of "waves" both inside and outside the stadium.
So a couple of thoughts, not meant to be negative. ;)
How will branding of the "River District" coexist with "The District: Life Well Lived" being built just across the river? To me, that could get confusing for people.
I also think Khan is maybe dropping hints about developing another piece of land along the river that is not contaminated. Could he be trying to get access to Metro Park? Is there another piece of land that is development ready East of the stadium?
I'm mentioned on a number of previous times, that it is time to bring the Hart Expressway down to street level (i.e. Bay Street). It just looks obnoxious in the video. The southern end of the practice field is meant to interact with the river and development along the river. The raised expressway needs to come down to make this truly happen.

I-10east

Quote from: brainstormer on January 29, 2016, 08:50:43 PM
How will branding of the "River District" coexist with "The District: Life Well Lived" being built just across the river? To me, that could get confusing for people.

Mark Lamping dismissed that area being called 'the River District' on Jaguars All Access.

Marle Brando

It's now been revealed the land for expansion is indeed MetPark. Now all the rumblings of MetPark coming down and what to do with it makes sense. He mentioned including a hotel and maybe offices in a second phase. Hmm..interesting. What will make up his Shipyards revised vision now. Maybe Aquajax comes online as part of the Shipyards..who knows. But I have the feeling everything what's known is not being spoken of outside of closed doors, but that pedestrian bridge will lead to more than just parking across Bay.

hiddentrack

I think redevelopment of MetPark will be Khan's second audition for the Shipyards (the amphitheater and practice facility being the first). This is his chance to show what he can do. He's one of the few people I'd trust to do something unique and special, even if it may just be a hotel. We've already seen from today's presentation he'll push for something beyond the usual style of development we see around here. I hope it can have a snowball effect.

Charles Hunter

The City would just give up the valuable Metro Park property? Weren't Federal funds used for at least part of the purchase?  Wouldn't that have to be paid back?

whyisjohngalt

Quote from: Marle Brando on January 29, 2016, 05:00:47 PM
However its becoming very clear that opinion has crossed over into agenda territory.

Crystal clear

RattlerGator

Quote from: Marle Brando on January 29, 2016, 07:28:01 PM
The thing is Stephen, I'm not so much a football fan as I am a Jaguars fan. I gave not a care about football until 1995 when my city, my home, Jacksonville embarked on this journey with an NFL franchise. More than a Jaguars fan, I am a fan of Jacksonville. Also in architecture, design and implementation, the arts, history and yes museums. I actually attended Art Basel Miami this past year not for the party, but for the exhibits and energy associated with. I want this so bad for Jacksonville. I want our city to shine with culture, life, energy and entertainment. I want a downtown to be proud of when out of towners come to visit and actually have things to do. Synergy.  With that being said, my enthusiasm for what Khan and the Jaguars are doing doesn't have anything to do with a football game but it has everything to do with seeing my home finally have someone with vision, capital, and the imagination to do something, anything to give life to our downtown core. It just so happens he owns an NFL franchise and he uses that appeal and leverage to get things done. I am not so involved in the politics of it all as you are and that where I sincerely value your and others insight to how some of these things work and should work for the city. I can not agree with you more that we should all want the best deal and best in return for investment.
     I may have been off in my approach and 'tone' for which I apologize, but it's the way I interpreted your approach and 'tone' in your responses to anything regarding the Jags and Khan that led me to make the agenda comment. Because we don't know each other personally though, it's all we have to go by here on the forum. So even if we are on opposite sides of the fence, we share the same interest (except paleoanthropology) in seeing Jacksonville grow which is why I'm here on Mjax. Which is why I'll continue to be here engaging with you Stephen and whoever else regardless of opinion differences. Which is why I appreciate your response..thanks.

Touché, Marle, touché ! ! ! It's so rich, and hilarious, to read Stephen unknowingly criticize you and then do a quick backstroke when confronted with more information, all the while insisting he's okay with alternate viewpoints. It's even more rich to see him label someone a troll -- ha! -- for daring to have a contrary opinion. Then he dares mention bullying; I'm someone who doesn't take kindly to the routine bullying he employs on this board -- dumb!, etc., and similar uncivil takes he employs regularly -- to advance his agenda (yes, he quite obviously has several) but, hell, he knows several billionaires ! ! !

Wowza, Stephen -- the self-parodying.

Marle, your kind of take is what I would have expected from someone like Stephen who doesn't happen to have a deep love for football but does have a deep love for Jax. He has severely disappointed on that score, unfortunately.

Noone

Quote from: I-10east on January 29, 2016, 08:56:35 PM
Quote from: brainstormer on January 29, 2016, 08:50:43 PM
How will branding of the "River District" coexist with "The District: Life Well Lived" being built just across the river? To me, that could get confusing for people.

Mark Lamping dismissed that area being called 'the River District' on Jaguars All Access.

"River District?" At the 1/13/16 Jacksonville Waterways Commission meeting the DIA pointed out that the Shipyards has gone from a 150 slip marina to 400. WOW!

tufsu1

Quote from: Charles Hunter on January 29, 2016, 10:29:24 PM
The City would just give up the valuable Metro Park property? Weren't Federal funds used for at least part of the purchase?  Wouldn't that have to be paid back?

I have heard the may be able to "relocate" Met Park and not have to give back money.  So imagine Met Park moved closer to the Hyatt/Berkman area without the restriction on the # of ticketed events allowed.

Noone

Quote from: Charles Hunter on January 29, 2016, 10:29:24 PM
The City would just give up the valuable Metro Park property? Weren't Federal funds used for at least part of the purchase?  Wouldn't that have to be paid back?

+1

vicupstate

Quote from: tufsu1 on January 30, 2016, 05:17:24 PM
Quote from: Charles Hunter on January 29, 2016, 10:29:24 PM
The City would just give up the valuable Metro Park property? Weren't Federal funds used for at least part of the purchase?  Wouldn't that have to be paid back?

I have heard the may be able to "relocate" Met Park and not have to give back money.  So imagine Met Park moved closer to the Hyatt/Berkman area without the restriction on the # of ticketed events allowed.

Isn't the land between the Berkman and Met Park the same contaminated land the Shipyards/Khan's plan was planned for?
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RattlerGator

Quote from: tufsu1 on January 30, 2016, 05:17:24 PM
I have heard the may be able to "relocate" Met Park and not have to give back money.  So imagine Met Park moved closer to the Hyatt/Berkman area without the restriction on the # of ticketed events allowed.

That would be a truly sweet occurrence.

Charles Hunter

Quote from: vicupstate on January 31, 2016, 01:17:43 PM
Quote from: tufsu1 on January 30, 2016, 05:17:24 PM
Quote from: Charles Hunter on January 29, 2016, 10:29:24 PM
The City would just give up the valuable Metro Park property? Weren't Federal funds used for at least part of the purchase?  Wouldn't that have to be paid back?

I have heard the may be able to "relocate" Met Park and not have to give back money.  So imagine Met Park moved closer to the Hyatt/Berkman area without the restriction on the # of ticketed events allowed.

Isn't the land between the Berkman and Met Park the same contaminated land the Shipyards/Khan's plan was planned for?

Interesting, I think you are right, the only land between the existing Metro Park and Berman, is the contaminated Shipyard property.

thelakelander

"A man who views the world the same at 50 as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life." - Muhammad Ali

CCMjax

This is a somewhat old article but just read it last night.  The new Red Wings arena is already under construction with the core proposal in place largely funded by state bonds and taxpayer money it sounds like, but when Ilitch wants to go that extra mile he just throws down $95 mil from his own stash, or should I say Stache?  Might make Kahn & Co. blush a bit.  Cool practice facility too.  There are a lot of parallels between this development and the Everbank Field development so it will be interesting to follow.  I'm very interested to see what happens in the Midtown neighborhood when the M-1 rail along with this $1 billion+ development are both complete. 

http://www.crainsdetroit.com/article/20151104/NEWS/151109915/ilitches-add-95-million-worth-of-features-to-new-red-wings-arena
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