Missouri Football players on strike

[Adam White]

College is liberal hell. White liberals are responsible for all of this faux high racial tension black victimization bullshit, and now they have to lie in the bed that they made. They wanna bring back the 60s (when blacks really really had racial concerns) so bad.

That doesn't sound like either university I attended. Was this your experience when you were in college? Where was it?

[The_Choose_1]

College is liberal hell. White liberals are responsible for all of this faux high racial tension black victimization bullshit, and now they have to lie in the bed that they made. They wanna bring back the 60s (when blacks really really had racial concerns) so bad.

That doesn't sound like either university I attended. Was this your experience when you were in college? Where was it?

This is why I listen to Rush Limcheese. All he talks about is Liberal Colleges and their Professors? Rush is an Entertainer at best and his lemmings would all jump over the cliff if he told them to.

[fsquid]

football be powerful in this country.

[The_Choose_1]

football be powerful in this country.

The Dollar even more powerful.

[RattlerGator]

More powerful than football or dollars (those matter more to the alumni) on campus is the crazy desire by faculty and staff to *not* be caricatured as something other than liberal. To step off the plantation in this way is to risk ridicule, and worse. Did you not listen to that young chick at Yale scream at this obviously liberal man gallantly standing there and listening to her foolishness but doing so with complete respect and restraint? I mean, the absolute comfort she felt to be so incredibly intolerant -- of someone placed there, as a member of the tribe essentially -- for her benefit. That was jarring.

Does the woman know how to feel any sense of shame? Do any of the folks so casually tossing around the Scarlet Letter "R" at the mere utterance of a contrary thought?

Liberals lose their freaking mind when accused of being racist (and Black people know this; anyone see those Bernie Sanders rallies when the ridiculous BlackLivesMatter people jumped the stage in Seattle ). The shiznit is completely out-of-control.

And, you don't have to be a Rush Limbaugh fan (I rarely listen but I don't have a problem with the man or his program) to know the generic truth of what I-10east posted. Never in American history has the path forward been so wide open and relatively unhindered for African Americans -- and that crazy azz chick is out there screaming at a sympathetic man about a triviality.

At Yale !!!

Many, many white people have figured out that a good number of African Americans have a damn near complete inability to distinguish rudeness from racism, or indifference from racism, or bad luck from racism, or all manner of things experienced by all people . . . from racism. It has truly grown to bizarre proportions, this conflating damn near anything negative that happens in your life to racism. And, there is less and less of an ability to look squarely in the mirror -- and accept personal responsibility or at least accept the possibility that you made a healthy contribution to whatever negativity surrounds you. White people, black people -- everyone is quick these days to lapse into bitch-and-moan mode. I personally detest it.

Adam, if you didn't run into any of the longing for the activism of the 1960s (and the inherent mythologizing of what actually happened, or how many people were actually involved) at the two universities you attended . . . where, pray tell, was that !?!

[Downtown Osprey]

Like I've stated before. No problem with these students exercising their rights to peaceful protest. But to bully a fellow student who works for the media who was simply documenting the whole scene, and a COMMUNICATIONS professor bullying the student for exercising his first amendment right really makes me second guess the majority of those students intentions for protesting all together. disgraceful.  If the President had to step down, she should as well for that ridiculous behavior.

[finehoe]

Unfortunately, this kind of foolishness isn't limited to college campuses and "liberals".  The whole "War on Christmas" bullshit and the conservative meme that Christians are persecuted in the United States is the right's version of the left's obsession with racism.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/christian-evangelists-upset-starbucks-red-cups-article-1.2427180

[Adam White]

Adam, if you didn't run into any of the longing for the activism of the 1960s (and the inherent mythologizing of what actually happened, or how many people were actually involved) at the two universities you attended . . . where, pray tell, was that !?!

I attended the University of Florida and the University of North Florida. UNF was certainly much more right wing as a general rule - I remember having a Poly Sci professor getting irate with me when I contended that Bush wouldn't win re-election (turns out I was right about that). And I had a very anti-communist Russian history professor.

UF was much more balanced across the spectrum. Yes, you had your liberal groups (and left wing groups), but as I recall, there was a very active "Libertarian" party (my sister was dating a member at that time - Brian Doherty, who went on to be an editor at "Reason" magazine) and other various right wing groups (campus crusade for christ, N/ROTC, the whole Greek system, etc). No one group seemed to have any louder a voice than the others (with exception to the Greeks, who basically ran student government).

I think there is a general lack of tolerance from many on the right - dissenting voices must be shut down. It's funny that conservatives get so worked up about how "liberal" university campuses are, but don't bother to complain about how conservative the US military is - an organization that disallows critical thinking, tells its members what to think and is full of people who think they know everything about how the world works based on their own limited experiences.

[fsquid]

Like I've stated before. No problem with these students exercising their rights to peaceful protest. But to bully a fellow student who works for the media who was simply documenting the whole scene, and a COMMUNICATIONS professor bullying the student for exercising his first amendment right really makes me second guess the majority of those students intentions for protesting all together. disgraceful.  If the President had to step down, she should as well for that ridiculous behavior.

professor of mass media at what some think is the #1 journalism school in the country.  Had to shake my head when I saw that this morning.

[RattlerGator]

Unfortunately, this kind of foolishness isn't limited to college campuses and "liberals".  The whole "War on Christmas" bullshit and the conservative meme that Christians are persecuted in the United States is the right's version of the left's obsession with racism.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/christian-evangelists-upset-starbucks-red-cups-article-1.2427180

That is a manufactured story taking some facebook post and trying to make it some national effort. You don't see Fox News or National Review or a host of other center-right or right organizations bitching about Starbucks and those cups. To equate that non-event with what happened at Mizzou is ludicrous. No one is making the point that differences of opinion are real and deeply held.

This is about free speech being attacked, institutionally!

Did you watch the craziness at Mizzou captured on that video ? ? ?
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2015/11/can-we-take-political-correctness-seriously-now.html#

The reason every Marxist government in the history of the world turned massively repressive is not because they all had the misfortune of being hijacked by murderous thugs. It's that the ideology itself prioritizes class justice over individual rights and makes no allowance for legitimate disagreement.

Who, honestly, can't genuinely see the truth in that statement? Who? You have not only a professor exhibiting outrageous conduct, but she happens to be a professor of mass media! But, what the hell, she's working with the protest movement, so she calls out for everyone to see and hear, "Help me get this reporter out of here. I need some muscle over here." At a public university, in an open space.

Damn.

It's a sad day for academia and the left-wing when this isn't roundly, and seriously, rebuked.

[Adam White]

Adam, if you didn't run into any of the longing for the activism of the 1960s (and the inherent mythologizing of what actually happened, or how many people were actually involved) at the two universities you attended . . . where, pray tell, was that !?!

I attended the University of Florida and the University of North Florida. UNF was certainly much more right wing as a general rule - I remember having a Poly Sci professor getting irate with me when I contended that Bush wouldn't win re-election (turns out I was right about that). And I had a very anti-communist Russian history professor.

UF was much more balanced across the spectrum. Yes, you had your liberal groups (and left wing groups), but as I recall, there was a very active "Libertarian" party (my sister was dating a member at that time - Brian Doherty, who went on to be an editor at "Reason" magazine) and other various right wing groups (campus crusade for christ, N/ROTC, the whole Greek system, etc). No one group seemed to have any louder a voice than the others (with exception to the Greeks, who basically ran student government).

I think there is a general lack of tolerance from many on the right - dissenting voices must be shut down. It's funny that conservatives get so worked up about how "liberal" university campuses are, but don't bother to complain about how conservative the US military is - an organization that disallows critical thinking, tells its members what to think and is full of people who think they know everything about how the world works based on their own limited experiences.

exactly.  all you have to do is look to some of the posters on this board who get pretty shouty whenever a dissenting viewpoint is discussed.  Spuwho and a few other people with more conservative viewpoints being exempt from this comment.

Remember the chaos when Diane and I first posted that torturing prisoners was wrong and going to be an ethical problem?

Or the shouting that happened over our reporting of the police shooting of the unarmed Kiko Battles?  I believe I was accused multiple times of being a 'cop hating liberal' who was for crime overrunning springfield (which is the neighborhood I live in---I guess I was just suppose to love the prospect of being crimed)

Or Bobby Elrods 4 year long crusade to shout down any discussion of global warming on this site.

And the two year crusade over writing about the impending financial crash of 2008 (starting in 2006) as 'liberal nonsense' and fear mongering.

It's kind of like the whole worn-out "war on christmas" trope that is trotted out each year. According to those types, any acknowledgement of other belief systems amounts to an attack on christianity. There is only one version of the 'truth' and any deviation from that amounts to PC or liberal bias, etc. So a retailer trying to maximize profits through being as inclusive as possible isn't being good at 'free market' capitalism - it's actively promoting an anti-christian agenda.

There is so little in the way of self-reflection for these right wing types. They hold so steadfastly to their version of events, of history - their worldview. There's only one allowable narrative and any deviation from that is scorned. How is that any different than what they're accusing 'liberals' of?

[Adam White]

The reason every Marxist government in the history of the world turned massively repressive is not because they all had the misfortune of being hijacked by murderous thugs. It's that the ideology itself prioritizes class justice over individual rights and makes no allowance for legitimate disagreement.

Who, honestly, can't genuinely see the truth in that statement? Who? You have not only a professor exhibiting outrageous conduct, but she happens to be a professor of mass media! But, what the hell, she's working with the protest movement, so she calls out for everyone to see and hear, "Help me get this reporter out of here. I need some muscle over here." At a public university, in an open space.

Damn.

It's a sad day for academia and the left-wing when this isn't roundly, and seriously, rebuked.

There has never been a Marxist government in power in any country, anywhere, in the history of mankind.

[RattlerGator]

I attended the University of Florida and the University of North Florida. UNF was certainly much more right wing as a general rule - I remember having a Poly Sci professor getting irate with me when I contended that Bush wouldn't win re-election (turns out I was right about that). And I had a very anti-communist Russian history professor.

UF was much more balanced across the spectrum. Yes, you had your liberal groups (and left wing groups), but as I recall, there was a very active "Libertarian" party (my sister was dating a member at that time - Brian Doherty, who went on to be an editor at "Reason" magazine) and other various right wing groups (campus crusade for christ, N/ROTC, the whole Greek system, etc). No one group seemed to have any louder a voice than the others (with exception to the Greeks, who basically ran student government).

I think there is a general lack of tolerance from many on the right - dissenting voices must be shut down. It's funny that conservatives get so worked up about how "liberal" university campuses are, but don't bother to complain about how conservative the US military is - an organization that disallows critical thinking, tells its members what to think and is full of people who think they know everything about how the world works based on their own limited experiences.

My goodness -- you went there, Adam? Really? No marxist government? Ever? So, everything has failed before because the poor fools on the left just didn't understand how to perfect their efforts? Or didn't try hard enough? Nothing is the fault of marxists? It's everyone else's fault? Hmmmmm, where have I heard that foolishness before? Utopia awaits, comrades, utopia awaits !!!

Sorry, Adam, but that position requires no thinking on your part and is something of a supremacist take that removes your requirement to acknowledge what actually has occurred and your responsibility to deal with it.

As for campus -- it was very evident at UF when I was there in the 80s and I know it has been evident there since. I have no doubt it was evident before, either. There is a reason why Alachua County and Leon County very much defy the norm for North Florida. I served on the Board of Directors of the corporation that publishes The Alligator when I was at UF and saw it in practically every issue we published. Of course, I was firmly within the left-wing at that time.

Finally, if you think the US military disallows critical thinking, you know nothing of the US military. Which, unfortunately, is the case for so many on the left who only know how to think of the armed services via ridiculous resort to condescending caricature. The United States military certainly has a center-right orientation, but so does the country it protects. However, no one on the center-right or even the right wing in America is shouting down speakers on university campuses. That's all shamefully happening on the left. And it's outrageous, no matter how much the left tries to engage in some relativist pablum as if both sides are doing it.

Both sides very clearly aren't.

[Adam White]

I attended the University of Florida and the University of North Florida. UNF was certainly much more right wing as a general rule - I remember having a Poly Sci professor getting irate with me when I contended that Bush wouldn't win re-election (turns out I was right about that). And I had a very anti-communist Russian history professor.

UF was much more balanced across the spectrum. Yes, you had your liberal groups (and left wing groups), but as I recall, there was a very active "Libertarian" party (my sister was dating a member at that time - Brian Doherty, who went on to be an editor at "Reason" magazine) and other various right wing groups (campus crusade for christ, N/ROTC, the whole Greek system, etc). No one group seemed to have any louder a voice than the others (with exception to the Greeks, who basically ran student government).

I think there is a general lack of tolerance from many on the right - dissenting voices must be shut down. It's funny that conservatives get so worked up about how "liberal" university campuses are, but don't bother to complain about how conservative the US military is - an organization that disallows critical thinking, tells its members what to think and is full of people who think they know everything about how the world works based on their own limited experiences.

My goodness -- you went there, Adam? Really? No marxist government? Ever? So, everything has failed before because the poor fools on the left just didn't understand how to perfect their efforts? Or didn't try hard enough? Nothing is the fault of marxists? It's everyone else's fault? Hmmmmm, where have I heard that foolishness before? Utopia awaits, comrades, utopia awaits !!!

Yeah, I "went there" - because it's true. Do you know what Marxism-Leninism is?

[Adam White]

The United States military certainly has a center-right orientation, but so does the country it protects. However, no one on the center-right or even the right wing in America is shouting down speakers on university campuses. That's all shamefully happening on the left. And it's outrageous, no matter how much the left tries to engage in some relativist pablum as if both sides are doing it.

Center-right? You're having a laugh.