London trips show few results for time, money spent by Jacksonville delegation

Started by thelakelander, October 25, 2015, 07:56:04 PM

spuwho

The press coverage in London is improving, if a bit slowly.

Last year's coverage of the Jags in London didn't even warrant a photo, only a small mention in the Times.

This year is much different.

The Times has zero coverage, but the Daily Mail ran a photo laden feature.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/nfl/article-3288915/Buffalo-Bills-31-34-Jacksonville-Jaguars-Allen-Hurns-touchdown-seals-dramatic-win.html

If 84,000 people showed up for a cricket match in the US, that would be big news here. 84,000 people at Wembley is still not enough in the eyes of the British press.

Perhaps we need to get a former British Rugby star to play. Australia went all out when Jarryd Hayne made the 49ers roster.


Adam White

Quote from: spuwho on October 27, 2015, 12:18:31 AM
The press coverage in London is improving, if a bit slowly.

Last year's coverage of the Jags in London didn't even warrant a photo, only a small mention in the Times.

This year is much different.

The Times has zero coverage, but the Daily Mail ran a photo laden feature.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/nfl/article-3288915/Buffalo-Bills-31-34-Jacksonville-Jaguars-Allen-Hurns-touchdown-seals-dramatic-win.html

If 84,000 people showed up for a cricket match in the US, that would be big news here. 84,000 people at Wembley is still not enough in the eyes of the British press.

Perhaps we need to get a former British Rugby star to play. Australia went all out when Jarryd Hayne made the 49ers roster.

It might have something to do with the fact that The Times, Mail, Guardian, etc are national papers, not London papers. And there is a very big problem (whether real or perceived) that London gets too much attention or whatever at the expense of the rest of the country.
"If you're going to play it out of tune, then play it out of tune properly."

spuwho

When I worked in London, the British press didnt have very high opinions of the US.

When we hosted a press conference at 7:30AM I never heard so much whining in my entire life.

We provided coffee and tea due to the early meet. They all complained about how the US is so "McDonalds 24x7" about everything and why cant we be "normal".

I just ignored it, but the attitude persisted throughout.

The regular Brits were awesome. Very nice people who went out of their way to make us welcome while we worked there. Very passionate about their sports, but it was hard to get up for a sport that is so different for them.

Adam White

Quote from: spuwho on October 27, 2015, 09:55:04 AM
When I worked in London, the British press didnt have very high opinions of the US.

When we hosted a press conference at 7:30AM I never heard so much whining in my entire life.

We provided coffee and tea due to the early meet. They all complained about how the US is so "McDonalds 24x7" about everything and why cant we be "normal".

I just ignored it, but the attitude persisted throughout.

The regular Brits were awesome. Very nice people who went out of their way to make us welcome while we worked there. Very passionate about their sports, but it was hard to get up for a sport that is so different for them.

I tend to find the average opinion of America is fairly positive (in general), though they think of Americans as being fat, ignorant about the rest of the world and insincerely "nice" or friendly.
"If you're going to play it out of tune, then play it out of tune properly."

finehoe

I think it is pretty commonly said about most countries that "the people out in the provinces are really nice, but the people in [largest and/or capital city] are dicks."

CCMjax

Quote from: Adam White on October 27, 2015, 10:43:01 AM
Quote from: spuwho on October 27, 2015, 09:55:04 AM
When I worked in London, the British press didnt have very high opinions of the US.

When we hosted a press conference at 7:30AM I never heard so much whining in my entire life.

We provided coffee and tea due to the early meet. They all complained about how the US is so "McDonalds 24x7" about everything and why cant we be "normal".

I just ignored it, but the attitude persisted throughout.

The regular Brits were awesome. Very nice people who went out of their way to make us welcome while we worked there. Very passionate about their sports, but it was hard to get up for a sport that is so different for them.

I tend to find the average opinion of America is fairly positive (in general), though they think of Americans as being fat, ignorant about the rest of the world and insincerely "nice" or friendly.

Ha ha!  I loved hearing all that stuff when I lived over there.  After I would get an earful about how ignorant, fat and arrogant us Americans are I would always say, "Ok well where do you hide all your good looking women?"

It's always good fun going back and forth with the Brits.  In case anyone is wondering, they hide them in Brighton, which is kind of ironic because I believe it is the gay capital of the UK.
"The first man who, having enclosed a piece of ground, bethought himself of saying 'This is mine,' and found people simple enough to believe him, was the real founder of civil society." - Jean Jacques Rousseau

spuwho

Too funny! 

We all have our flaws. I saw some blatant racism while commuting on the Tube, but I dont hold it against the whole country.

Its a great place. NFL will come around eventually.

RattlerGator

We won't lose our team to London but we may very well lose Shad to them.

Adam White

Quote from: finehoe on October 27, 2015, 11:34:17 AM
I think it is pretty commonly said about most countries that "the people out in the provinces are really nice, but the people in [largest and/or capital city] are dicks."

Clearly, you've never been to Basildon.
"If you're going to play it out of tune, then play it out of tune properly."

jph

Quote from: JaxAvondale on October 26, 2015, 09:46:23 PM
The NFL and Kahn should be making a deal with the Premier League and Tottenham to have Premier League matches played in Jacksonville while the Jags are in London. The stadium would be packed with soccer fans.

I have a hard time seeing the FA approve PL matches played outside the country. And why would they take place in Jacksonville even if they did? Every big PL team is doing North American tours these days but I don't see any of them in or near Jax.

Adam White

Quote from: jph on October 27, 2015, 05:03:10 PM
Quote from: JaxAvondale on October 26, 2015, 09:46:23 PM
The NFL and Kahn should be making a deal with the Premier League and Tottenham to have Premier League matches played in Jacksonville while the Jags are in London. The stadium would be packed with soccer fans.

I have a hard time seeing the FA approve PL matches played outside the country. And why would they take place in Jacksonville even if they did? Every big PL team is doing North American tours these days but I don't see any of them in or near Jax.

It's too far anyway. There is no 'bye' week and depending on the scheduling of the matches, there exists a possibility one or both of the teams involved would have a match in mid-week before or after the Premier League fixture in Jacksonville. I don't see any club being able to accomodate playing in, say, Russia on a Tuesday, Wednesday or Thursday and playing in Jacksonville on a Saturday or Sunday on either side of that.

That said, I don't think the FA could block it if it were something the Premier League clubs really, really wanted to do.
"If you're going to play it out of tune, then play it out of tune properly."

JaxAvondale

Quote from: Adam White on October 27, 2015, 05:25:53 PM
Quote from: jph on October 27, 2015, 05:03:10 PM
Quote from: JaxAvondale on October 26, 2015, 09:46:23 PM
The NFL and Kahn should be making a deal with the Premier League and Tottenham to have Premier League matches played in Jacksonville while the Jags are in London. The stadium would be packed with soccer fans.

I have a hard time seeing the FA approve PL matches played outside the country. And why would they take place in Jacksonville even if they did? Every big PL team is doing North American tours these days but I don't see any of them in or near Jax.


It's too far anyway. There is no 'bye' week and depending on the scheduling of the matches, there exists a possibility one or both of the teams involved would have a match in mid-week before or after the Premier League fixture in Jacksonville. I don't see any club being able to accomodate playing in, say, Russia on a Tuesday, Wednesday or Thursday and playing in Jacksonville on a Saturday or Sunday on either side of that.

That said, I don't think the FA could block it if it were something the Premier League clubs really, really wanted to do.

Generally, only Champions League (PL) teams have matches during the week. NBC has a TV deal with the Premier League. So, there is a media component already in place.

I-10east

Quote from: Adam White on October 27, 2015, 10:43:01 AM
I tend to find the average opinion of America is fairly positive (in general), though they think of Americans as being fat, ignorant about the rest of the world and insincerely "nice" or friendly.

I'm not arguing with you, but that "All of America being ignorant about the rest of the World"sentiment is such BS; If anything the US bends over backwards too much to be multicultural, like Obama giving the Islamic clock kid a trip to the White House. Many foreigners are extremely clannish (stuck with their ways, AKA ignorant of the rest of the World) and are very rude; Many don't share cordial Western courtesies (excluding the UK).The Old World had huge start before the US and for the most part, the US blew that part of the world away (financially, philosophically, influentially etc etc). Many of the jealous countrymen abroad are just sippin on haterade, that's all.

Adam White

Quote from: I-10east on October 27, 2015, 09:08:09 PM
Quote from: Adam White on October 27, 2015, 10:43:01 AM
I tend to find the average opinion of America is fairly positive (in general), though they think of Americans as being fat, ignorant about the rest of the world and insincerely "nice" or friendly.

I'm not arguing with you, but that "All of America being ignorant about the rest of the World"sentiment is such BS; If anything the US bends over backwards too much to be multicultural, like Obama giving the Islamic clock kid a trip to the White House. Many foreigners are extremely clannish (stuck with their ways, AKA ignorant of the rest of the World) and are very rude; Many don't share cordial Western courtesies (excluding the UK).The Old World had huge start before the US and for the most part, the US blew that part of the world away (financially, philosophically, influentially etc etc). Many of the jealous countrymen abroad are just sippin on haterade, that's all.

I-10 - I think the opinion is a stereotype and it is recognized as such. Of course, all Americans are not ignorant of the rest of the world. But a lot of Americans are. And there's a joke that war is the American way of learning geography.

I don't follow what you mean in the rest of your post. Obama and the clock kid have nothing to do with Americans not being able to locate Canada on a map.
"If you're going to play it out of tune, then play it out of tune properly."

Adam White

Quote from: JaxAvondale on October 27, 2015, 07:45:50 PM
Quote from: Adam White on October 27, 2015, 05:25:53 PM
Quote from: jph on October 27, 2015, 05:03:10 PM
Quote from: JaxAvondale on October 26, 2015, 09:46:23 PM
The NFL and Kahn should be making a deal with the Premier League and Tottenham to have Premier League matches played in Jacksonville while the Jags are in London. The stadium would be packed with soccer fans.

I have a hard time seeing the FA approve PL matches played outside the country. And why would they take place in Jacksonville even if they did? Every big PL team is doing North American tours these days but I don't see any of them in or near Jax.


It's too far anyway. There is no 'bye' week and depending on the scheduling of the matches, there exists a possibility one or both of the teams involved would have a match in mid-week before or after the Premier League fixture in Jacksonville. I don't see any club being able to accomodate playing in, say, Russia on a Tuesday, Wednesday or Thursday and playing in Jacksonville on a Saturday or Sunday on either side of that.

That said, I don't think the FA could block it if it were something the Premier League clubs really, really wanted to do.

Generally, only Champions League (PL) teams have matches during the week. NBC has a TV deal with the Premier League. So, there is a media component already in place.

That's not true at all. Europa League matched are played on Thursdays. Currently, there are still two PL teams in the Europa League. And there are also League Cup and FA Cup games played mid-week. I believe there were League Cup games last night, as a matter of fact.
"If you're going to play it out of tune, then play it out of tune properly."