London trips show few results for time, money spent by Jacksonville delegation

[JaxAvondale]

The NFL and Kahn should be making a deal with the Premier League and Tottenham to have Premier League matches played in Jacksonville while the Jags are in London. The stadium would be packed with soccer fans.

I have a hard time seeing the FA approve PL matches played outside the country. And why would they take place in Jacksonville even if they did? Every big PL team is doing North American tours these days but I don't see any of them in or near Jax.

It's too far anyway. There is no 'bye' week and depending on the scheduling of the matches, there exists a possibility one or both of the teams involved would have a match in mid-week before or after the Premier League fixture in Jacksonville. I don't see any club being able to accomodate playing in, say, Russia on a Tuesday, Wednesday or Thursday and playing in Jacksonville on a Saturday or Sunday on either side of that.

That said, I don't think the FA could block it if it were something the Premier League clubs really, really wanted to do.

Generally, only Champions League (PL) teams have matches during the week. NBC has a TV deal with the Premier League. So, there is a media component already in place.

That's not true at all. Europa League matched are played on Thursdays. Currently, there are still two PL teams in the Europa League. And there are also League Cup and FA Cup games played mid-week. I believe there were League Cup games last night, as a matter of fact.

You are absolutely correct. FA Cup, Europa, and Capital One Cup matches are played during the week. There are still a lot of teams that aren't playing in those matches right now.

[Adam White]

The NFL and Kahn should be making a deal with the Premier League and Tottenham to have Premier League matches played in Jacksonville while the Jags are in London. The stadium would be packed with soccer fans.

I have a hard time seeing the FA approve PL matches played outside the country. And why would they take place in Jacksonville even if they did? Every big PL team is doing North American tours these days but I don't see any of them in or near Jax.

It's too far anyway. There is no 'bye' week and depending on the scheduling of the matches, there exists a possibility one or both of the teams involved would have a match in mid-week before or after the Premier League fixture in Jacksonville. I don't see any club being able to accomodate playing in, say, Russia on a Tuesday, Wednesday or Thursday and playing in Jacksonville on a Saturday or Sunday on either side of that.

That said, I don't think the FA could block it if it were something the Premier League clubs really, really wanted to do.

Generally, only Champions League (PL) teams have matches during the week. NBC has a TV deal with the Premier League. So, there is a media component already in place.

That's not true at all. Europa League matched are played on Thursdays. Currently, there are still two PL teams in the Europa League. And there are also League Cup and FA Cup games played mid-week. I believe there were League Cup games last night, as a matter of fact.

You are absolutely correct. FA Cup, Europa, and Capital One Cup matches are played during the week. There are still a lot of teams that aren't playing in those matches right now.

Well, my original point was that it didn't see feasible for PL teams to play matches in Jax when NFL teams are playing in London. In fact, the original comment mentioned making a deal with Spurs. Spurs have played in Europe for 9 of the last 10 seasons. They have also made into the later rounds (or finals) of either the FA cup or League cup during those years. While there are no guarantees in life, it's very likely that Spurs will continue to play mid-week football for the foreseeable future (given that spending levels roughly equate to success and Spurs have been the fifth or sixth highest-spending PL club for quite some time now).

Nothing is outside the realm of possibility, but I don't see it happening. I certainly don't see the Spurs Supporters' Trust backing such a move. And I'd be willing to bet most other clubs' supporters' groups wouldn't back it either.

[TheCat]

I tend to find the average opinion of America is fairly positive (in general), though they think of Americans as being fat, ignorant about the rest of the world and insincerely "nice" or friendly.

I'm not arguing with you, but that "All of America being ignorant about the rest of the World"sentiment is such BS; If anything the US bends over backwards too much to be multicultural, like Obama giving the Islamic clock kid a trip to the White House. Many foreigners are extremely clannish (stuck with their ways, AKA ignorant of the rest of the World) and are very rude; Many don't share cordial Western courtesies (excluding the UK).The Old World had huge start before the US and for the most part, the US blew that part of the world away (financially, philosophically, influentially etc etc). Many of the jealous countrymen abroad are just sippin on haterade, that's all.

Thank you, I-10. I was getting bored with forum discussions. I can always count on you for for drunk uncle commentary.

In case you need an interpretation of some the things you said:

- Obama invites a brown kid to the white house and that's an example of bending over backwards to be multi-cultural.
- ALL of America is not ignorant to the rest of the world but MANY foreigners are.
- All foreigners from the UK are loving, open and cordial. Most other foreigners are hateful, rude, clannish and un-cordial.
- Cordial western courtesies do not extend to writing ignorant comments or making fallacious judgements about every other people group.
- "The US blew that part of the world away," you failed to mention that this happens in the literal sense.

I-10, what is "American" to you?  Apparently, brown kids aren't included in your definition.

[Tacachale]

The NFL and Kahn should be making a deal with the Premier League and Tottenham to have Premier League matches played in Jacksonville while the Jags are in London. The stadium would be packed with soccer fans.

I have a hard time seeing the FA approve PL matches played outside the country. And why would they take place in Jacksonville even if they did? Every big PL team is doing North American tours these days but I don't see any of them in or near Jax.

It's too far anyway. There is no 'bye' week and depending on the scheduling of the matches, there exists a possibility one or both of the teams involved would have a match in mid-week before or after the Premier League fixture in Jacksonville. I don't see any club being able to accomodate playing in, say, Russia on a Tuesday, Wednesday or Thursday and playing in Jacksonville on a Saturday or Sunday on either side of that.

That said, I don't think the FA could block it if it were something the Premier League clubs really, really wanted to do.

Generally, only Champions League (PL) teams have matches during the week. NBC has a TV deal with the Premier League. So, there is a media component already in place.

That's not true at all. Europa League matched are played on Thursdays. Currently, there are still two PL teams in the Europa League. And there are also League Cup and FA Cup games played mid-week. I believe there were League Cup games last night, as a matter of fact.

You are absolutely correct. FA Cup, Europa, and Capital One Cup matches are played during the week. There are still a lot of teams that aren't playing in those matches right now.

Well, my original point was that it didn't see feasible for PL teams to play matches in Jax when NFL teams are playing in London. In fact, the original comment mentioned making a deal with Spurs. Spurs have played in Europe for 9 of the last 10 seasons. They have also made into the later rounds (or finals) of either the FA cup or League cup during those years. While there are no guarantees in life, it's very likely that Spurs will continue to play mid-week football for the foreseeable future (given that spending levels roughly equate to success and Spurs have been the fifth or sixth highest-spending PL club for quite some time now).

Nothing is outside the realm of possibility, but I don't see it happening. I certainly don't see the Spurs Supporters' Trust backing such a move. And I'd be willing to bet most other clubs' supporters' groups wouldn't back it either.

The difference between the NFL promoting NFL in Europe, and Premier League promoting PL in the US, is that the NFL is the only game in world for its product, while the Premier League is not. If the NFL wants to see football become more popular elsewhere, the NFL has to be the driving factor. And because the NFL is a monopoly, it will reap all the potential benefits of the endeavor. All promotion of "football" means promotion of the NFL.

If the Premier League played some games in the US, it would be taking on a lot of expense and risk for something that would probably benefit other interests as much or more than the league itself. It would drum up interest in soccer generally, which could just as easily translate into support for the American leagues, for other European or South American teams, etc. The Premier League can promote both soccer and itself in the US in less risky ways.

That said, I think individual teams may see the benefit of it, whether for full games or for friendlies. Khan did bring Fulham to Jacksonville for a friendly last year (and yes I know they're not in the Premier League anymore).

[Adam White]

The NFL and Kahn should be making a deal with the Premier League and Tottenham to have Premier League matches played in Jacksonville while the Jags are in London. The stadium would be packed with soccer fans.

I have a hard time seeing the FA approve PL matches played outside the country. And why would they take place in Jacksonville even if they did? Every big PL team is doing North American tours these days but I don't see any of them in or near Jax.

It's too far anyway. There is no 'bye' week and depending on the scheduling of the matches, there exists a possibility one or both of the teams involved would have a match in mid-week before or after the Premier League fixture in Jacksonville. I don't see any club being able to accomodate playing in, say, Russia on a Tuesday, Wednesday or Thursday and playing in Jacksonville on a Saturday or Sunday on either side of that.

That said, I don't think the FA could block it if it were something the Premier League clubs really, really wanted to do.

Generally, only Champions League (PL) teams have matches during the week. NBC has a TV deal with the Premier League. So, there is a media component already in place.

That's not true at all. Europa League matched are played on Thursdays. Currently, there are still two PL teams in the Europa League. And there are also League Cup and FA Cup games played mid-week. I believe there were League Cup games last night, as a matter of fact.

You are absolutely correct. FA Cup, Europa, and Capital One Cup matches are played during the week. There are still a lot of teams that aren't playing in those matches right now.

Well, my original point was that it didn't see feasible for PL teams to play matches in Jax when NFL teams are playing in London. In fact, the original comment mentioned making a deal with Spurs. Spurs have played in Europe for 9 of the last 10 seasons. They have also made into the later rounds (or finals) of either the FA cup or League cup during those years. While there are no guarantees in life, it's very likely that Spurs will continue to play mid-week football for the foreseeable future (given that spending levels roughly equate to success and Spurs have been the fifth or sixth highest-spending PL club for quite some time now).

Nothing is outside the realm of possibility, but I don't see it happening. I certainly don't see the Spurs Supporters' Trust backing such a move. And I'd be willing to bet most other clubs' supporters' groups wouldn't back it either.

The difference between the NFL promoting NFL in Europe, and Premier League promoting PL in the US, is that the NFL is the only game in world for its product, while the Premier League is not. If the NFL wants to see football become more popular elsewhere, the NFL has to be the driving factor. And because the NFL is a monopoly, it will reap all the potential benefits of the endeavor. All promotion of "football" means promotion of the NFL.

If the Premier League played some games in the US, it would be taking on a lot of expense and risk for something that would probably benefit other interests as much or more than the league itself. It would drum up interest in soccer generally, which could just as easily translate into support for the American leagues, for other European or South American teams, etc. The Premier League can promote both soccer and itself in the US in less risky ways.

That said, I think individual teams may see the benefit of it, whether for full games or for friendlies. Khan did bring Fulham to Jacksonville for a friendly last year (and yes I know they're not in the Premier League anymore).

I reckon they figure they can build "brand awareness" and increase their fanbase by doing stuff in the off season. It isn't worth the hassle and risk to do this stuff during the season.

[RattlerGator]

We won't lose our team to London but we may very well lose Shad to them.

your lips to gods ears.

Still got that hate (or is it envy?) for the billionaire colored boy, I see.

Nativist!

[hiddentrack]

London calling hasn't been a game-changer for Jacksonville's job growth.
Each time the Jaguars play overseas, a Jacksonville delegation of city and civic leaders pack their bags for a week-long trip to meet European companies on their home turf, most recently this week for the Jaguars' game against the Buffalo Bills.

The trips have gotten thousands of dollars in taxpayer support and high-profile attention from mayors the past three years. But so far, they haven't wooed any European-based company to open a new location in Jacksonville.

Full article: http://jacksonville.com/news/metro/2015-10-24/story/london-trips-show-few-results-time-money-spent-jacksonville-delegation

Looks like we might have some wooing the TU said we were missing. I'm sure a full article will come soon, but here are some tweets sent out by @WOKVChristy this morning:

Mayor Curry and members of the Jax Chamber are getting ready to announce an international business expansion.

This business expansion is a result from meetings when the Jags played in London last month.

Mayor Curry says this expansion will create 75 jobs over the next 3 years.

Resource Solutions is coming across the pond to create a global service center right here in Jax.

Resource Solutions provides recruitment outsourcing services. Annual salary is more than $40K.

Resource Solutions says they  looked at a number of locations to open their global service center and they chose Jax.

Resource Solutions: We are absolutely aware of the business links between the Jacksonville Jaguars and London.

Resource Solutions say they hope to open their center by next year. They want to start hiring as soon as possible.

They are expecting to hire 25 people at the end of Q1 next year.

[hiddentrack]

Here's an article from JBJ:

London-based company adding 75 high-wage jobs in Jacksonville

A global firm that has a presence in 24 countries is adding 75 jobs and locating its North American service center in Jacksonville, Mayor Lenny Curry announced on Thursday.

Resource Solutions, a London-based company that specializes in recruitment, will be adding 75 jobs with a median salary of about $56,000 in Jacksonville. The deal, however, is contingent on incentives on the state and local level.

The company said that it had many options, but that the deal was finalized due to the pursuit of the mayor's office and the city's desire to see new jobs.

"We looked at a number of other locations, but what we established very quickly was the appetite of the mayor's office and the city," Janine Chidlow, managing director of EMEA, said during the press conference on Thursday.

Mayor Curry, City Council President Greg Anderson and JAX Chamber Chair-elect Audrey Moran said that the economic development trip to London was one of the reasons that the global company set its sights on Jacksonville.

"It's about building long-term relationships," Moran said.

Curry said meeting with international executives is also a way of putting Jacksonville's name out there.

"We now have folks in London who know who we are," Curry said.

Chidlow said that Resource Solutions is looking to start recruitment and adding jobs in early next year, and intends to add 25 employees by the end of the first quarter. How quickly additional employees are added will depend on the growth of the company.

The company has not yet decided where their service center will be located.

http://www.bizjournals.com/jacksonville/news/2015/11/19/london-based-company-adding-75-high-wage-jobs-in.html?ana=twt