Is it to soon to blame Mayor Curry & Mike Williams for the 13 different murders?

[The_Choose_1]

I see on Channel 4 that in the month of August 2015 Jacksonville Florida had 13 different homicides. http://www.news4jax.com/news/jacksonville-murder-rate-hits-high-in-august/35053248

[Dog Walker]

^Yes.

[The_Choose_1]

^Yes.

OK Thanks

[Non-RedNeck Westsider]

While we've grown accustomed to accosting Stephen over titles, I can't not put this out there:

*too

Are you insinuating that they 'pulled the trigger'?

Can you even have multiples of the same murder?

[The_Choose_1]

While we've grown accustomed to accosting Stephen over titles, I can't not put this out there:

*too

Are you insinuating that they 'pulled the trigger'?

Can you even have multiples of the same murder?

Mayor Curry & Mike Williams campaigned they would clean up the streets, and have acted tough about lowering crime. But since they haven't been in office that long and the dream team of having more cops on the street of Jacksonville Florida hasn't happen until the new budget is passed. I have been told it's too early to blame the Mayor and The New Sheriff in Town.

[icarus]

When it comes to murder rates in Jacksonville, I think its hard to put the blame on any one person or two for that matter.  The presumption is that murder is something new in Jacksonville.

And, I don't mean that in a pro any political party/elected official way.  As a City, we've never addressed the real issues .. income inequality, opportunity, allocation of resources, etc.  We are experiencing the end result of decades of misunderstanding of how to deal with the socioeconomic issues that have brought us to this point.  And, unfortunately, I think it will take us decades to dig out from that.

I only hope the new administration sets us on the right path.

[Know Growth]

Some day gonna blame the Mayor for not feeling safe at West Side Wal Marts. A violation of civil rights.Festering subject.Kinda' weird when neighborhood Block Captains Alert suggest those in Avondale preparing for Hurricane avoid West Side Wal Marts. Same suggestion lodged by LEO friend some time ago. There are plenty of Great Headlines available to make any Mayor dance.Particularly after a campaign cycle.

[coredumped]

Can't blame Williams, he's been on vacation :/

Williams has been nothing but a disappointment. Maybe Hackney will run.

[Adam White]

When it comes to murder rates in Jacksonville, I think its hard to put the blame on any one person or two for that matter.  The presumption is that murder is something new in Jacksonville.

And, I don't mean that in a pro any political party/elected official way.  As a City, we've never addressed the real issues .. income inequality, opportunity, allocation of resources, etc.  We are experiencing the end result of decades of misunderstanding of how to deal with the socioeconomic issues that have brought us to this point.  And, unfortunately, I think it will take us decades to dig out from that.

I only hope the new administration sets us on the right path.

Income inequality, inequality, opportunity, allocation of recourses. All money answers. Money answers don't work. It's not socioeconomic in my opinion. In the past, many (most) poor people have been perfectly great human beings and citizens.
What has changed is the family.

Single babies that are raising babies (or not raising more accurately) is the issue. Obviously there are exceptions, but young single mothers raising kids (or multiple kids) with no help had been the problem for the last 25 years.

I would like to see you back this up logically.  And Im not taking the piss out of you.  Can you demonstrate any of these points or are you simply repeating what you've heard on television?

Maybe I've had one too many bourbon. You don't see the logic in the lack of parenting leading to criminal and uncaring, unhumane actions of young punks these days?

2/3 of the children born in Iceland are born to single mothers. You don't often hear "Iceland" and "crime" mentioned in the same sentence. They did have a flourishing "punk" scene for a long time, though.

[Adam White]

So then - there is something inherent to being a single mother AND being American which leads to crime?

Just so you know, the average age of a new mother in Iceland is 27 - whilst higher than the average age in the USA (25.6), isn't particularly high in comparison.

[Adam White]

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=take+the+piss

That (the definition provided by Urban Dictionary) is technically incorrect. To take the piss is different to taking the piss out of someone.

If I thought you were being deliberately obtuse with Apache, you'd be taking the piss (having a laugh or being difficult for the sake of it). If you were mocking him, you'd be taking the piss out of him.

[I-10east]

Income inequality, inequality, opportunity, allocation of recourses. All money answers. Money answers don't work. It's not socioeconomic in my opinion. In the past, many (most) poor people have been perfectly great human beings and citizens.
What has changed is the family.

Single babies that are raising babies (or not raising more accurately) is the issue. Obviously there are exceptions, but young single mothers raising kids (or multiple kids) with no help had been the problem for the last 25 years.

+1000

Plus it's not like socioeconomic issues are unique to Jax, nevertheless a whole multicultural nation like the US. 

[I-10east]

2/3 of the children born in Iceland are born to single mothers. You don't often hear "Iceland" and "crime" mentioned in the same sentence. They did have a flourishing "punk" scene for a long time, though.

Apples and oranges. Also people in poor states like West Virginia aren't murdering each other at an alarming pace like say Chicago. Liberals (I'm not saying that you are) wanna think that every ethnicity is the same like a cookie cutter, and that's simply not the case; Generally speaking, we (different races/ethnicities) all have our strengths and weaknesses. There is nothing 'racist' about what I said (not saying that you are saying that).

[icarus]

Let me see if I understand this ... so we are saying that the aggregation of lower income families in areas that we did not provide resources ( i.e. libraries, transportation) could not find the opportunities for jobs or lawful income. Left with no other legal ways to make money turned to the black market (i.e. drugs, theft) with the obvious result that a great many of them ended up in jail.  Now, they are felons and unable to obtain jobs or housing because of that brand.

Caught in a cycle of hopelessness the family unit breaks down.  We have a preponderance of single mothers or fathers trying or in most cases not trying to raise their children.  As a result, we have generations of children raised without a traditional moral compass and turning to the only life they know .. crime.

So ... how do we blame that on any one administration and how is that not the result of failed public policies that led to serious socio-economic issues, i.e. the relation of one group or class to the greater economy ....

[I-10east]

Some of the main things that hurt black Americans (aside from single mothers like Apache mentioned) is perpetual victimhood, and constantly dwelling into revisionist history, which mostly is negativism (both continuously spurred on by mostly white American liberals). Japan forgave the US for nuking them, imulated alot of American tech, and now it's one of the most flourishing nations in the world, think about that.

Other black cultures like black Caribbeans, Nigerians etc) are oppressed, and have it worse than black Americans; In contrast they don't believe in that liberal 'woe is me' victimhood bullshit; they come to America opening businesses adapting to society, and constantly are running circles around most black Americans. There is some tension between Caribbean blacks etc, and American blacks because they don't subscribe to that victimhood nonsense.