Anybody work at Deutsche Bank and use their EV charging stations?

[stantron5k]

I've seen a picture somewhere that showed a Tesla using one of their stations at what looked to be the back of a building. I'm wondering if anyone knows if they're open to the public or for employees only. I'm also curious if it's tough to catch a charge there or if there is a line of cars waiting most weekdays from employees using them.

[ProjectMaximus]

Official answer to this question when I (through my friends who work there) asked facilities about a year ago:
No, they are just for employees.

That said, since the time that I asked I've used the station at the front side of the building (there are two cords) a half dozen times with no issues whatsoever. Every time except once it was well after normal office hours when most of the parking lot is empty. In every instance there was no other car charging. I've never gone to use the one in the back of the building.

So long story short, it isn't officially condoned but I've left my car charging there for as many as 4 hours with no issue. Not as much need now that there are level 3s at the Gate Station nearby...

[WarDamJagFan]

Go for it. Just don't let Michael Drexler catch you.

[BennyKrik]

Do not let security services catch you. They are very territorial. Trespassing ticket is likely

[fsquid]

trespassing ticket?  Do you rip that up in front of them or after they leave?

[BennyKrik]

the charging station is on private property. security calls police.
police shows up quicker than you can say oink-oink.

[fsquid]

the charging station is on private property. security calls police.
police shows up quicker than you can say oink-oink.

usually, they just ask you nicely to leave.  Maybe you look threatening?

[BennyKrik]

If I walked into your house to charge up my phone for an hour and you nicely asked me to leave, would it have been because I did NOT look threatening?

....unreal

[fsquid]

Not in my house, it would be my front yard

[ProjectMaximus]

If I walked into your house to charge up my phone for an hour and you nicely asked me to leave, would it have been because I did NOT look threatening?

....unreal

That you would think this is analogous says a lot about your reasoning ability.

[JHAT76]

I've seen a picture somewhere that showed a Tesla using one of their stations at what looked to be the back of a building. I'm wondering if anyone knows if they're open to the public or for employees only. I'm also curious if it's tough to catch a charge there or if there is a line of cars waiting most weekdays from employees using them.

So long story short, it isn't officially condoned but I've left my car charging there for as many as 4 hours with no issue. Not as much need now that there are level 3s at the Gate Station nearby...

I ask this out of general curiosity.  Why do you and others think it is OK to go onto private property and use services that are clearly not intended for public use?  Just trying to get my head around this mindset.

[BennyKrik]

i concede. My reasoning is subpar

Stealing electricity on private property is a smart,
Commonly accepted, well- reasoned, patriotic act.

[ProjectMaximus]

I've seen a picture somewhere that showed a Tesla using one of their stations at what looked to be the back of a building. I'm wondering if anyone knows if they're open to the public or for employees only. I'm also curious if it's tough to catch a charge there or if there is a line of cars waiting most weekdays from employees using them.

So long story short, it isn't officially condoned but I've left my car charging there for as many as 4 hours with no issue. Not as much need now that there are level 3s at the Gate Station nearby...

I ask this out of general curiosity.  Why do you and others think it is OK to go onto private property and use services that are clearly not intended for public use?  Just trying to get my head around this mindset.

Your question is a fair one. How clear is it? They share their station information with charging station networks. If it wasn't intended that way, they could easily make the stations marked private (which they did when they were first installed but subsequently changed) The word from the folks who responded to my friends query was also that "somebody should use them." It is also probably a product of our EV culture as many charging stations provided by businesses are free and open to the public. JTA is implementing a program to install stations on private property that must be free and accessible to the public, so prepare for a few dozen more stations in the next year. That obviously doesn't mean that we are right to treat every free station as if it belongs to the public, but I'm giving a reason for why the mentality is that way.

Ultimately, you do ask a fair question but until security says something (and they've just walked past me when I'm there) I guess I feel ok.

i concede. My reasoning is subpar

Stealing electricity on private property is a smart,
Commonly accepted, well- reasoned, patriotic act.

I apologize to you, upon rereading my comment it is harsh. I got carried away by your "unreal" comment when your entire statement was ludicrous. Anyway:
1) There's a huge difference between a private home and an ungated parking lot. In practice and in legal terms.
2) Plenty of people open up their private homes for strangers to charge their electric cars. This is a normal use...but for charging cell phones it's not.

[BennyKrik]

The parking lot is private property

People opening homes - irrelevant comparison.


If the security services nicely asked someone who doesn't work there to leave, it means the following:
The license plate was identified as not belonging to an employee.

If it was open to the public, then why would non employee be asked to leave?

[mvp]

JTA is implementing a program to install stations on private property that must be free and accessible to the public, so prepare for a few dozen more stations in the next year.

It's actually the North Florida TPO, not JTA.  JEA is their first utility partner and the stations will be going in this fall in the JEA service area.  After that the TPO will be working with other utilities in the region to expand their charging network branded "ChargeWell."  Charging at the stations is not necessarily free.  Depending on the location, the property owner may charge up to $0.18/kWh for the initial two years.  In comparison, the charging stations installed at SJTC charge $0.39 - 0.49/kWh.

The locations will be announced at the Drive Electric Rally on Sept. 17, 5:30-7:30 pm at Whole Foods in Mandarin.  National Drive Electric Week is Sept. 12-20.

In response to original post, I was told by the DB sustainability person that their stations are for employees only.