Jesse Wilson Switches Parties And Endorses Brown

Started by Metro Jacksonville, April 06, 2015, 02:45:01 PM

Metro Jacksonville

Jesse Wilson Switches Parties And Endorses Brown



In his own words, the former Republican candidate for City Council and the recent Social Media Manager of the Bill Bishop Campaign weighs in on the upcoming mayoral runoff, giving insight into his experiences and his loyalty in a post-Bishop race.  Eyepopping essay by the Jville original: Jesse Leigh Wilson

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ben4prez

This should say so much more than a Rick Perry endorsement.

Jimmy

Jesse is a good guy with a good message.  Can't argue with the facts and figures.

Still not convinced we're talking about a good Mayor.

But, as often is the case, lesser-evil, devil-you-know, whatever.


Jtetlak

I agree that the DEMs usually take a much more inclusive stand on the issues, but as a DEM myself I think it's important to note that there are many exceptions to that rule (I can think of a couple running for city council off the top of my head right now). Additionally, the DEMs are just as dysfunctional as the REPs are, and they do just as little to reach out and identify with younger members. In truth the two party system is hurting us, particularly in local elections. Removing party affiliation, getting rid of the "us versus them" politics, and forcing candidates to run on the issues rather than on the letter next to their name will do wonders for helping to move Jacksonville forward.
It's time to move past being a city with potential, and become a city living up to it's potential.

tufsu1


carpnter

Not impressed.  This isn't going to change my opinion of Brown and his incompetence.  Neither candidate is worth a darn.  What concerns me is 4 more years of Brown just gives him a springboard to run for state or federal office and spread his incompetence there as well.  With Curry we could kick him out in 4 years and he would disappear.

Jax native

Quote from: Jtetlak on April 06, 2015, 03:32:00 PM
I agree that the DEMs usually take a much more inclusive stand on the issues, but as a DEM myself I think it's important to note that there are many exceptions to that rule (I can think of a couple running for city council off the top of my head right now). Additionally, the DEMs are just as dysfunctional as the REPs are, and they do just as little to reach out and identify with younger members. In truth the two party system is hurting us, particularly in local elections. Removing party affiliation, getting rid of the "us versus them" politics, and forcing candidates to run on the issues rather than on the letter next to their name will do wonders for helping to move Jacksonville forward.

This is the most important step for Jacksonville's politics to do.  Who makes this decision on unitary elections.  SOE?  I haven't research it at all.

Jimmy

Quote from: carpnter on April 06, 2015, 04:10:01 PM
Not impressed.  This isn't going to change my opinion of Brown and his incompetence.  Neither candidate is worth a darn.  What concerns me is 4 more years of Brown just gives him a springboard to run for state or federal office and spread his incompetence there as well.  With Curry we could kick him out in 4 years and he would disappear.
I disagree with the above.  Alvin Brown will have a tough time running for state or federal office unless he fixes some of his policy positions.  The only election in which he's ever faced Democratic primary voters, he's lost.  The same would be the case if he runs state-wide.  Say, for Governor or Senate.

As it is, some of his supporters are weak support at best.  People who voted for someone else in the first election in 2011 and likely 2015.  But you can see what the power of incumbency means.  He'll likely get re-elected.  I think it would be the same situation with Mr. Curry.  If Mayor Brown wins, we get a fresh start in 2019.  If it's Mr. Curry, we're taking 2023.  Unfathomable.

carpnter

Quote from: Jimmy on April 06, 2015, 05:11:08 PM
Quote from: carpnter on April 06, 2015, 04:10:01 PM
Not impressed.  This isn't going to change my opinion of Brown and his incompetence.  Neither candidate is worth a darn.  What concerns me is 4 more years of Brown just gives him a springboard to run for state or federal office and spread his incompetence there as well.  With Curry we could kick him out in 4 years and he would disappear.
I disagree with the above.  Alvin Brown will have a tough time running for state or federal office unless he fixes some of his policy positions.  The only election in which he's ever faced Democratic primary voters, he's lost.  The same would be the case if he runs state-wide.  Say, for Governor or Senate.

As it is, some of his supporters are weak support at best.  People who voted for someone else in the first election in 2011 and likely 2015.  But you can see what the power of incumbency means.  He'll likely get re-elected.  I think it would be the same situation with Mr. Curry.  If Mayor Brown wins, we get a fresh start in 2019.  If it's Mr. Curry, we're taking 2023.  Unfathomable.

My concern is that waiting until 2019 just means the fiscal problems we are facing will get worse.  Brown has shown no leadership on the issue starting with his budgets that were unworkable to the pension plan negotiations that had no way to pay for them.

-jerrycornwell

  Great move for an individual who could well be on his way to the Mayors office itself. I know he has my support.
In reference to comments of the failure of political parties reaching out to younger voters, the Duval Democrats just leaped in big time.
Both parties best reach out by setting examples of themselves in the political arena itself.

strider

I find it great that a young guy like Jessie Wilson is so involved.  However, he is playing politics, nothing more.  For every good deed, there is at least one that tells a different story of Mayor Brown's tenure so far.  One that says he is not our best hope. All of that information is on various threads found on this very forum.  We are not faced with picking the one candidate that will be the best, we are faced with picking the one candidate that will do the least amount of harm over the next four years.  It is, at best, a delay of hope.  How sad is that?
"My father says that almost the whole world is asleep. Everybody you know. Everybody you see. Everybody you talk to. He says that only a few people are awake and they live in a state of constant total amazement." Patrica, Joe VS the Volcano.

Cheshire Cat

Quote from: Jax native on April 06, 2015, 05:08:36 PM
Quote from: Jtetlak on April 06, 2015, 03:32:00 PM
I agree that the DEMs usually take a much more inclusive stand on the issues, but as a DEM myself I think it's important to note that there are many exceptions to that rule (I can think of a couple running for city council off the top of my head right now). Additionally, the DEMs are just as dysfunctional as the REPs are, and they do just as little to reach out and identify with younger members. In truth the two party system is hurting us, particularly in local elections. Removing party affiliation, getting rid of the "us versus them" politics, and forcing candidates to run on the issues rather than on the letter next to their name will do wonders for helping to move Jacksonville forward.

This is the most important step for Jacksonville's politics to do.  Who makes this decision on unitary elections.  SOE?  I haven't research it at all.
We actually don't have a two party system, there are tons of other party designations across the nation.  Anyone can create a political party and file it with the state.  What we have are two old groups that are polarized and entrenched in our political system via the Dems and Reps.  At some point in history that will change and I personally believe that the growing number of NPA's and Independents are the makings of a third less polarized group.
Diane Melendez
We're all mad here!

Cheshire Cat

#12
Quote from: carpnter on April 06, 2015, 04:10:01 PM
Not impressed.  This isn't going to change my opinion of Brown and his incompetence.  Neither candidate is worth a darn.  What concerns me is 4 more years of Brown just gives him a springboard to run for state or federal office and spread his incompetence there as well.  With Curry we could kick him out in 4 years and he would disappear.
You might be mistaken about Curry being kicked to the curb in four years. Once the GOP money and power folk have him in office they will do what it takes to keep him there.  In four years Brown will be out of the mayors office and his political influence lessened.  He may end up in an office somewhere on the fringes of Washington or some such a thing.
Diane Melendez
We're all mad here!

edjax

Quote from: Cheshire Cat on April 06, 2015, 08:50:51 PM
Quote from: Jax native on April 06, 2015, 05:08:36 PM
Quote from: Jtetlak on April 06, 2015, 03:32:00 PM
I agree that the DEMs usually take a much more inclusive stand on the issues, but as a DEM myself I think it's important to note that there are many exceptions to that rule (I can think of a couple running for city council off the top of my head right now). Additionally, the DEMs are just as dysfunctional as the REPs are, and they do just as little to reach out and identify with younger members. In truth the two party system is hurting us, particularly in local elections. Removing party affiliation, getting rid of the "us versus them" politics, and forcing candidates to run on the issues rather than on the letter next to their name will do wonders for helping to move Jacksonville forward.

This is the most important step for Jacksonville's politics to do.  Who makes this decision on unitary elections.  SOE?  I haven't research it at all.
We actually don't have a two party system, there are tons of other party designations across the nation.  Anyone can create a political party and file it with the state.  What we have are two old groups that are polarized and entrenched in our political system via the Dems and Reps.  At some point in history that will change and I personally believe that the growing number of NPA's and Independents are the makings of a third less polarized group.

Except the Independents didn't bother to vote.  I believe the turnout for independents in the mayor race was something like 17%.

Jax native

Yeah, the part of the patriarchal statement of "I find it great that a young man like Jesse wilson is so involved"  is disturbing on so many levels.  Impressed he has interest in politics?  Impressed that at his age, he had interest in politics? Impressed that people in the 18-40 year old spectrum vote?  I'm disappointed by the statement.  Not the person stated this, but the myth that people 18 - 40 do not vote.  I'm not talking about"The Young Voters Coalition" as they have been very vocal, in a positive way, of getting more people involved, but there are actually older people who think it's "great" for an under 30 year old to have a say about local politics. when I turned 18 years old, one of the first things I did was registered to vote.  It's not an amazing act, not galant.  it's a person's responsibility, especially knowing the lengths people of color and women had to go to just to be able to vote.  This was spoken to me many times before I turned 18, and did not take it lightly.  I guess, maybe the lack of apathy in young voters has taken on an mythological legend in older people's mind.  This disheartened me.