No more Debates between Mayor Alvin Brown and Lenny Curry?

Started by Cheshire Cat, April 03, 2015, 12:26:42 PM

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edjax

#30
April 07, 2015, 10:15:55 AM Last Edit: April 07, 2015, 10:18:00 AM by edjax
Without Bishop in a debate to at least try and shame them into actually answering a question the debates will be kind of pointless. I am sure we can already say how they will respond to a question.  I loved the editorial page in the paper this past weekend in which the title was Curry's plan for pension reform. He used about 80% of the writing to outline how we got in the mess and blame everyone associated with it in the past, with special emphasis on Brown of course. 20% to His Plan. Of course his plan is basically to negotiate a better plan. Lol. Duh.  No specifics. Just he is going to negotiate.  Brilliant thinking there Lenny.

Tacachale

#31
April 07, 2015, 10:18:08 AM
Quote from: tufsu1 on April 07, 2015, 10:10:54 AM
Quote from: Tacachale on April 07, 2015, 10:07:09 AM
This is the candidate who talked about the importance of debates and being open just four years ago, now pulling a Hogan.

well, unlike Curry, Mayor Brown actually has a job to do at the same time as he campaigns.  So it is understandable that he isn't super keen on holding weekly debates and countless town hall meetings.

If Brown were actually doing his job, you may have a point. And he'd probably have clinched this thing by now. Four debates during a majorly important runoff is not, at all, an unreasonable expectation.
Do you believe that when the blue jay or another bird sings and the body is trembling, that is a signal that people are coming or something important is about to happen?

tufsu1

#32
April 07, 2015, 10:19:11 AM
^ and 4 debates you will get.  2 before the first election and 2 more before the May election

Jimmy

#33
April 07, 2015, 10:19:46 AM
I think Curry wants the story, not the debates.  He's not at his best trying to answer questions in those stiff environments.  I've seen him debate and "just talk."  He's much better at just talking. 

There were only two televised debates in the First Election.  Two feels like a good number for the General.  Frankly, I don't think the sound bites will have changed much between March and May.

Sucks that the debates are back-to-back and DEEP into early voting.  At least one of those debates should take place before the end of April.  Absentee ballots hit the mail next week.

Jax native

#34
April 07, 2015, 12:08:38 PM
Quote from: InnerCityPressure on April 07, 2015, 10:15:23 AM
Quote from: Tacachale on April 07, 2015, 10:07:09 AM
This is the candidate who talked about the importance of debates and being open just four years ago, now pulling a Hogan.

Which is why I was upset when he was doing none.  Now, he is doing one. 

Plus, how many times do you want to sit and watch two guys not answer questions?

On Point.  i eagerly awaited the televised mayor's debate and was pretty let down with Brown and Curry,  What does anyone think they will actually answer?    It's just the story, while the debate holds no substance.

Cheshire Cat

#35
April 07, 2015, 03:21:01 PM
Quote from: edjax on April 07, 2015, 10:15:55 AM
Without Bishop in a debate to at least try and shame them into actually answering a question the debates will be kind of pointless. I am sure we can already say how they will respond to a question.  I loved the editorial page in the paper this past weekend in which the title was Curry's plan for pension reform. He used about 80% of the writing to outline how we got in the mess and blame everyone associated with it in the past, with special emphasis on Brown of course. 20% to His Plan. Of course his plan is basically to negotiate a better plan. Lol. Duh.  No specifics. Just he is going to negotiate.  Brilliant thinking there Lenny.
Completely agree!
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We're all mad here!

bill

#36
April 07, 2015, 09:41:12 PM
Quote from: stephendare on April 07, 2015, 10:30:55 AM
Quote from: Jimmy on April 07, 2015, 10:19:46 AM
I think Curry wants the story, not the debates.  He's not at his best trying to answer questions in those stiff environments.  I've seen him debate and "just talk."  He's much better at just talking. 

There were only two televised debates in the First Election.  Two feels like a good number for the General.  Frankly, I don't think the sound bites will have changed much between March and May.

Sucks that the debates are back-to-back and DEEP into early voting.  At least one of those debates should take place before the end of April.  Absentee ballots hit the mail next week.

On this I completely agree.  His debate performance was so weak that he strengthened Bishop, not himself.

Shockingly you keep saying the same thing. I guess you and Bishop being the smartest guys in every room necessitates you to repeat yourselves for the simple masses.

Maybe if we had had a couple of more debates Bishop could have received 17% of the vote.   

thelakelander

#37
April 07, 2015, 11:00:55 PM
Action News says it will put empty podium on stage if Brown won't agree to mayoral debate



QuoteAfter Mayor Alvin Brown declined an invitation by Action News and WOKV radio to participate in a mayoral debate, Action News's general manager said Tuesday the May 6 debate will go on with two podiums on the stage for the candidates.

Challenger Lenny Curry plans to attend, his campaign says, so he would be at one podium. If Brown doesn't attend, the stage will have an empty podium where the mayor would have been standing.

"We're definitely going to do the debate, with or without Mayor Brown," said Jim Zerwekh, general manager for Action News. "We hope he will show up. We think it's in everyone's best interest, and we hope he changes his mind."

Full article: http://jacksonville.com/news/metro/2015-04-07/story/action-news-says-it-will-put-empty-podium-stage-if-brown-wont-agree
"A man who views the world the same at 50 as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life." - Muhammad Ali

Jimmy

#39
April 07, 2015, 11:31:17 PM
Yeah, that's a bad look for the Mayor.  With the margin so close, self-inflicted injuries like this are perilous.

InnerCityPressure

#40
April 07, 2015, 11:33:13 PM
Agree it doesn't look good, but Action News is so butthurt about the debate...

vicupstate

#42
April 08, 2015, 04:27:26 AM
^^ I wouldn't say he lost his temper (have you ever seen Chris Christie lose his temper)?  But he looks evasive and his logic doesn't follow, so it doesn't look good. He can't afford too many moments like that.
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coredumped

#43
April 08, 2015, 08:25:55 AM
You may be right, but Jim Piggott from ch 4 was there too, and he refused his questions as well.
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Tacachale

#44
April 08, 2015, 08:34:46 AM
Wish I could say it was surprising.
Do you believe that when the blue jay or another bird sings and the body is trembling, that is a signal that people are coming or something important is about to happen?
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