No more Debates between Mayor Alvin Brown and Lenny Curry?

Started by Cheshire Cat, April 03, 2015, 12:26:42 PM

mtraininjax

http://www.news4jax.com/news/MetroJax/8164840

Isn't MetroJacksonville a bedroom partner with WJXT Channel 4?

Strange bedfellows.....
And, that $115 will save Jacksonville from financial ruin. - Mayor John Peyton

"This is a game-changer. This is what I mean when I say taking Jacksonville to the next level."
-Mayor Alvin Brown on new video boards at Everbank Field

Jax native

Quote from: mtraininjax on April 04, 2015, 09:38:53 AM
As reported last night by WJXT, the last time a Mayoral Candidate declined to debate a challenger was Jake Godbold when he was running against John Delaney. Of course Delaney went on to win the election, and he used the time of the debate to discuss his plans and sell people on himself as Mayor.

By the way, Brown received the support from Goldbold for this race.....perhaps he is getting advice from him as well....perhaps history will repeat itself.

QuoteRight now Alvin has got to step up and convince the voters that he is prepared to lead differently and to answer the concerns of voters with facts and a plan that explains how he is going to accomplish what he promises.

Brown has had 4 years with which to stand up, take responsibility for his own actions. Why does anyone believe he can change in 60 days? Where are all the "I'm with Alvin" crowd, the same who asked for change in 2011, but are not happy with the change of Brown, but who are unwilling to give Curry a chance to lead? We want change, just not that change, so we will stand on the sidelines and not vote when in fact we are trying to get people out and vote, just not in this election. Nice

Just to remind all those who did not vote for Hogan, but did vote for Brown.......Mike Hogan just successfully beat Democrat Tracie Davis soundly, so apparently he is qualified to be Supervisor of Elections. Now that Brown has come out officially as a Democrat, perhaps the Republicans can get the vote out and send Brown back to hang out with the Clintons.

"Mike Hogan just successfully beat Democrat Tracie Davis soundly, so apparently he is qualified to be Supervisor of Elections"   Do you really believe getting more votes because of name recognition shows how successful you area?  Will you say Barack Obama won POTUS so apparently he is qualified to be POTUS?

I voted for Brown in 2011, I'm voting against Curry in 2015.

Jaxson

I the difference that I see between Mayor Alvin Brown and Lenny Curry is that Brown has proven that he can reach out to the opposing party (Governor Rick Scott) to find some common ground.  Could I imagine a Mayor Curry affording the same courtesy of a sitting Democratic governor?  My impression of Curry is that he is a conservative who intends to take only his base seriously.  From how Curry's camp characterizes anyone and everyone who happens to be a Democrat or a liberal as someone who is in bed with President Obama.  While he may rally his troops with liberal-baiting, a potential Mayor Curry would be turning off many of his constituents even before having a decent honeymoon in City Hall. 
I hope that the race goes to the candidate who most appreciates that he must lead an entire city and that he must not be a partisan zealot. 
John Louis Meeks, Jr.

tufsu1

^ he has pretty much said just that.  During the debates, Curry mentioned many times that he wants to serve all of Jacksonville and then in the next sentence says he is proud to be a conservative.

Jaxson

Lenny Curry says to us that he wants to serve all of Jacksonville but he also writes off his opposition as toadies for President Obama.  It is one thing, in my opinion, to be a proud conservative.  It is another thing, however, to run a campaign that trashes a significant portion of the population by attempting to turn a local election into a national issue.  It gives me the appearance of someone who wants the mayor's office to make a point in the 2016 presidential elections.  I think that it would be hard for Lenny Curry to convince liberals and progressives that he is ready to play nice after using guilt by association to link the mayor to the president and to all things 'liberal.'
John Louis Meeks, Jr.

strider

Actually, neither candidate is a positive for Jacksonville long term.  Alvin Brown has proven problematic on several fronts, including promoting people incapable of doing the proper job, negative human blight campaigns and poor leadership in financial issues. Len Curry is the unknown.  We simply can't tell for sure what he is going to do, not sure what he actually believes in but we know that some powerful people are behind him.

What is a voter to do? 

One thing I picked up on is that many of the incapable folks at high levels, like Kimberly Scott, will be replaced should Len Curry become Mayor. That in itself is enough to make me think I should be voting for change rather than the Alvin Brown we know.
"My father says that almost the whole world is asleep. Everybody you know. Everybody you see. Everybody you talk to. He says that only a few people are awake and they live in a state of constant total amazement." Patrica, Joe VS the Volcano.

coredumped

The mayor has changed (probably due to the bad reporting by Ch4)  to do the debate on Ch 4:

Mayor Alvin Brown agrees to debate on News4Jax: http://www.news4jax.com/news/mayor-alvin-brown-agrees-to-debate-on-news4jax/32202294

Jags season ticket holder.

mtraininjax

QuoteLen Curry is the unknown.  We simply can't tell for sure what he is going to do, not sure what he actually believes in but we know that some powerful people are behind him.

Not one person on MJ knew anything about Alvin Brown 4 years ago, they only THOUGHT they knew him. Running against Mike Hogan, they were sufficiently unhappy that Audrey Moran and Rick Mullaney were kicked to the curb and they thought, yes THOUGHT that change was in the name of an independent candidate who could become a great mayor, because he was unknown and had the Clinton experience added to his resume......

Uh, 4 years later, how many of those disciples would rather know what they are getting for 4 years? Of the two candidates for Mayor, Curry seems the more stable choice. You never know which Alvin Brown you get from day to day.
And, that $115 will save Jacksonville from financial ruin. - Mayor John Peyton

"This is a game-changer. This is what I mean when I say taking Jacksonville to the next level."
-Mayor Alvin Brown on new video boards at Everbank Field

Tacachale

Quote from: coredumped on April 05, 2015, 06:05:02 PM
The mayor has changed (probably due to the bad reporting by Ch4)  to do the debate on Ch 4:

Mayor Alvin Brown agrees to debate on News4Jax: http://www.news4jax.com/news/mayor-alvin-brown-agrees-to-debate-on-news4jax/32202294


It was accurately reported. Brown did back out of this debate, along with two of the three others. His campaign even said they "incorrectly declined the debate invitation" and now they're rectifying it.
Do you believe that when the blue jay or another bird sings and the body is trembling, that is a signal that people are coming or something important is about to happen?

coredumped

No argument he declined to debate, but what ch 4 left out was that he declined THEIR debate, he was always going to do the debate on FCN, ch 4 should have reported that, rather than omitting that important information.
Jags season ticket holder.

Tacachale

He's still shunning the other two debates, hoping we won't notice.
Do you believe that when the blue jay or another bird sings and the body is trembling, that is a signal that people are coming or something important is about to happen?

InnerCityPressure

Quote from: Tacachale on April 07, 2015, 09:50:03 AM
He's still shunning the other two debates, hoping we won't notice.

I honestly think one more debate between he and Curry is enough for a runoff. 

Tacachale

This is the candidate who talked about the importance of debates and being open just four years ago, now pulling a Hogan.
Do you believe that when the blue jay or another bird sings and the body is trembling, that is a signal that people are coming or something important is about to happen?

tufsu1

Quote from: Tacachale on April 07, 2015, 10:07:09 AM
This is the candidate who talked about the importance of debates and being open just four years ago, now pulling a Hogan.

well, unlike Curry, Mayor Brown actually has a job to do at the same time as he campaigns.  So it is understandable that he isn't super keen on holding weekly debates and countless town hall meetings.

InnerCityPressure

Quote from: Tacachale on April 07, 2015, 10:07:09 AM
This is the candidate who talked about the importance of debates and being open just four years ago, now pulling a Hogan.

Which is why I was upset when he was doing none.  Now, he is doing one. 

Plus, how many times do you want to sit and watch two guys not answer questions?