Bill Bishop makes "No" endorsement for Mayor!

Started by Cheshire Cat, March 31, 2015, 03:27:02 PM

Jax native

Quote from: mtraininjax on April 01, 2015, 11:36:00 PM
Bill Bishop is nothing more than a bad Seinfeld episode, you know a show about.....nothing. Who calls a press conference to tell people, well nothing. If nothing else, he looks more like a joke for 2019.

Maybe he's like the same kind of people who log in to a web site, takes time, energy to format a response, saying absolutely nothing, because the original statements was nothing to you. 

Jax native

Quote from: I-10east on April 02, 2015, 11:34:14 AM
Quote from: mtraininjax on April 01, 2015, 11:36:00 PM
Bill Bishop is nothing more than a bad Seinfeld episode, you know a show about.....nothing. Who calls a press conference to tell people, well nothing.

I'm not gonna lie, I was very underwhelmed with the lack of a 'surprising announcement' that it was rumored to be.

I'm not gonna lie,, I was very underwhelmed with the lack of an "interesting comment" that you took time & energy to write.  We both; not impressed.

I-10east

^^^Yet, you used all of your 'time & energy' to reply to that uninteresting comment. That makes perfect sense.

Cheshire Cat

Had a nice chat with Bill earlier and have some comments and things to share and will do so soon.  Right now I am having severe allergy's due to the pollen which means serious meds that make me sleepy.  lol  So will hold my thoughts until my head is clear.
Diane Melendez
We're all mad here!

Jax native

Quote from: I-10east on April 02, 2015, 04:56:42 PM
^^^Yet, you used all of your 'time & energy' to reply to that uninteresting comment. That makes perfect sense.

I realize that calling people out is your gig, but I'm pretty good at calling out BS.   

Jax native

Quote from: Cheshire Cat on April 02, 2015, 05:27:32 PM
Had a nice chat with Bill earlier and have some comments and things to share and will do so soon.  Right now I am having severe allergy's due to the pollen which means serious meds that make me sleepy.  lol  So will hold my thoughts until my head is clear.

Diane, I have the same allergies with pollen that turn to severe migraines.  I have to take a shower almost immediately when I have been outside for awhile.  Especially taking my dog for walks to the park.  Two showers a day, but I wash off the pollen immediately and put clothes in washing bin. 

Jax native

Quote from: stephendare on April 02, 2015, 08:26:29 PM
I 10 is our resident troll, jax native.  He generally follows our rules of civility but theres not much point in debating him.

Stephen, you have given me the heads up before,so thanks.  But some things, I feel remiss if I didn't address.  So, please let me know if you feel I'm out of bounds and I'll stop.  But, I'm pretty good at handling the trolldom, as I feel. 

I-10east

Quote from: Jax native on April 02, 2015, 08:15:18 PM
I realize that calling people out is your gig, but I'm pretty good at calling out BS.   

I rarely 'call anyone out' I normally just say my opinion telling it like it is non-politically, and then people like you or StephenDare usually attack it because it doesn't fit the liberal agenda; Just like the whole Cleveland Arms issue that you got all in a tizzy over. Jax native, you're starting to make even StephenDare look reasonable, being so antagonistic and all. Me and Lakelander don't see eye to eye on some issues, but I NEVER had an uncivil disagreement with him; That's the difference between him, and many others on MJ.

I-10east

^^^So eloquently spoken Stephen, thanks...Most people like to stay out of arguments, you like to be the 5th wheel in them.

Jax native

Quote from: I-10east on April 02, 2015, 08:40:08 PM
Quote from: Jax native on April 02, 2015, 08:15:18 PM
I realize that calling people out is your gig, but I'm pretty good at calling out BS.   

I rarely 'call anyone out' I normally just say my opinion telling it like it is non-politically, and then people like you or StephenDare usually attack it because it doesn't fit the liberal agenda; Just like the whole Cleveland Arms issue that you got all in a tizzy over. Jax native, you're starting to make even StephenDare look reasonable, being so antagonistic and all. Me and Lakelander don't see eye to eye on some issues, but I NEVER had an uncivil disagreement with him; That's the difference between him, and many others on MJ.

See?  That's the difference in me and them.  I DID NOT get in a "tizzy".  Stating facts that disagree w/ your 'opinion" is NOT a tizzy.  It's just stating facts. I am not antagonistic.  I am prepared to continue to comment when I feel necessary.  W2hen I continue seeing baseless arguments just to be negative, I'm calling out for some facts.  Or some links.  The idea that someone challenges your life long beliefs may be confusing to you, but not to me.  I like giving facts with many of my comments, unless I preface it with 'my opinion".

I challenge you to literally give me facts about Cleveland Arms shooting by JSO, where you can state without you backtracking that I'm in a "tizzy".  I'm unsure what uncivil disagreements we have had, only my facts seem to be not what you want to hear.  My comments are not for your pleasure.  Just mine.

Jax native

Quote from: stephendare on April 02, 2015, 09:19:41 PM
alternatively, Im told that his many posts in the Jaguars threads are spot on and right up to snuff.

If you are talking about me, please clarify any rules I might have gone over.  I maybe, mistakenly thought this was a comment blog welcoming different ideas without people getting personal feelings hurt by disagreements to their own opinions.  Is there some people who need to treated with kids gloves,who I'm unaware of?  Are there topics exclusive only to a few?  If I disagree with my comments  will I always be lectured that  I'm arguing?  Can you name the "trolls" who persist, so I can ignore them?  I feel there are certain conditions, I have not been made aware of.  Is there a secret agent page, I can access?  Thanks

I-10east

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Quote from: Jax native on April 02, 2015, 10:14:40 PM
See?  That's the difference in me and them.  I DID NOT get in a "tizzy".  Stating facts that disagree w/ your 'opinion" is NOT a tizzy.  It's just stating facts. I am not antagonistic.  I am prepared to continue to comment when I feel necessary.  W2hen I continue seeing baseless arguments just to be negative, I'm calling out for some facts.  Or some links.  The idea that someone challenges your life long beliefs may be confusing to you, but not to me.  I like giving facts with many of my comments, unless I preface it with 'my opinion".

I challenge you to literally give me facts about Cleveland Arms shooting by JSO, where you can state without you backtracking that I'm in a "tizzy".  I'm unsure what uncivil disagreements we have had, only my facts seem to be not what you want to hear.  My comments are not for your pleasure.  Just mine.

I made this simple comment below.

QuoteI'm not gonna lie, I was very underwhelmed with the lack of a 'surprising announcement' that it was rumored to be.

Then you turned that into a controversy, but you're aren't in a tizzy. You thought that I was attacking you with the Cleveland Arm thing just because I said 'Sadly many liberals side with the victims' when that wasn't the case. Why are you so freaking interested in protecting that dude in Cleveland Arms? You don't know him from Adam from Steve, but you insist on his innocence. There is no denying that he beaten his girlfriend; I guess that you're gonna deny that he kicked a neighbors door down, and he didn't resist arrest either.

Last thing; Are you the poster 'JaxNative68'? It seems like it, because that person also don't know how to brush stuff off his shoulders. I got too much of a short memory to continuously bicker with someone over an opinion. We all don't have to agree politically, contrary to popular belief.   


Jax native

Quote from: I-10east on April 02, 2015, 11:22:23 PM
Quote from: Jax native on April 02, 2015, 10:14:40 PM
See?  That's the difference in me and them.  I DID NOT get in a "tizzy".  Stating facts that disagree w/ your 'opinion" is NOT a tizzy.  It's just stating facts. I am not antagonistic.  I am prepared to continue to comment when I feel necessary.  W2hen I continue seeing baseless arguments just to be negative, I'm calling out for some facts.  Or some links.  The idea that someone challenges your life long beliefs may be confusing to you, but not to me.  I like giving facts with many of my comments, unless I preface it with 'my opinion".

I challenge you to literally give me facts about Cleveland Arms shooting by JSO, where you can state without you backtracking that I'm in a "tizzy".  I'm unsure what uncivil disagreements we have had, only my facts seem to be not what you want to hear.  My comments are not for your pleasure.  Just mine.

I made this simple comment below.

QuoteI'm not gonna lie, I was very underwhelmed with the lack of a 'surprising announcement' that it was rumored to be.

Then you turned that into a controversy, but you're aren't in a tizzy. You thought that I was attacking you with the Cleveland Arm thing just because I said 'Sadly many liberals side with the victims' when that wasn't the case. Why are you so freaking interested in protecting that dude in Cleveland Arms? You don't know him from Adam from Steve, but you insist on his innocence. There is no denying that he beaten his girlfriend; I guess that you're gonna deny that he kicked a neighbors door down, and he didn't resist arrest either.

Last thing; Are you the poster 'JaxNative68'? It seems like it, because that person also don't know how to brush stuff off his shoulders. I got too much of a short memory to continuously bicker with someone over an opinion. We all don't have to agree politically, contrary to popular belief.   

I'm taking one at a time so you don't get confused;
1. Your "simple comment" what you feel benign is a simple comment.  I then commented I thought your underwhelm feelings were underwhelming to me.  Cool on this?  YOu thought Bill Bishop's statement was underwhelming, while I thought your comment was underwhelming. Problem?  Okay cool,  lets go to
2. What kind of controversy did I turn this in?  Seriously, I've looked back at thread and have no idea what you are saying or implying.   Okay, just for you I'm posting the exact wording I used. "I'm not gonna lie,, I was very underwhelmed with the lack of an "interesting comment" that you took time & energy to write.  We both; not impressed."  What part was so controversial?  Where did I get into the "tizzy", not "tizzy' format?
3.You come back with the ole....well you took the time, so you are bad too attitude. 
4.Your exact comment QUOTE "I rarely 'call anyone out' I normally just say my opinion telling it like it is non-politically, and then people like you or StephenDare usually attack it because it doesn't fit the liberal agenda; Just like the whole Cleveland Arms issue that you got all in a tizzy over. Jax native, you're starting to make even StephenDare look reasonable, being so antagonistic and all. Me and Lakelander don't see eye to eye on some issues, but I NEVER had an uncivil disagreement with him; That's the difference between him, and many others on MJ."
5. How on God's green earth did I become so antagonistic with you or anyone?? How did this turn in to ME not being able to have an "uncivil conversation"'?   
6. I personally, feel you do not have a entirely realistic,  way to articulate facts and in turn take to criticizing anyone who disagrees. 
7. Again, as I have Stated previously, I have no horse in this race on Cleveland Arms shooting by JSO.  I have the legal background to view this as illegal and JSO had no probably cause, except JSO Hackney's multiple interviews.  I don't know the suspect, victim, shooter, or person who was shot.  BUT, I do have concern about the average citizen in Jacksonville, Fl and surrounding areas the right given to us by the USA Constitution. It's not hard, it's clear. There is a giant question about whether JSO had probable cause to shoot this UNARMED (because the taser gig is wrong) man for running from them.  They could arrest him for resisting arrest, but thats a misdemeanor and JSO has no right to shoot to kill a person committing an misdemeanor.
8. JSO has the duty to stop the irrational hysterical conflict happening at the apartments, where they started the battle.  JSO escalated the situation about one million times by their erratic and adrenaline filled reactions. 
9. JSO has the order, law and pledge to not do what they did.  JSO ordered the guy to stop, but then told him, he was being arrested.  JSO had no right.  JSO can not arrest a person accused of misdemeanor and can not arrest unless they witnessed crime.  This is where JSO's story takes a dive.  NOT one person will back up the story of the ONE jSO who pleads he saw the "strangling" of which was not strangling.  The desire for JSO to immediately put this myth out was too much. 
10. JSO was the "tho who protested too much".
11. All this from my experience and knowledge.
12. I don't respond to comments by only making a snarky comments as is obvious many do, so when I see BS, I usually call it out.
13. I saw BS, so i asked you back up comments which you couldn't and you could only reply by calling me names.
14. I'm NOT jaxnative....  I had no idea there was another jaxnative when I chose my name, but I Do Not log in on different names to just agree with myself.
15. I do apologize for other jaxnative... for getting them involved with my comments, becausewe are not one in thesaqme.
16. Any substantive comments will be welcomed.  Any other comments with no knowledge & full of snarky words probably will not be answered.
17. Hopefully this will clear up any misinformation you have or invalid thoughts you have about me. 
18. Again, Thoughtful questions will be answered.

I-10east

Quote from: Jax native on April 03, 2015, 12:28:52 AM
I'm taking one at a time so you don't get confused;
1. Your "simple comment" what you feel benign is a simple comment.  I then commented I thought your underwhelm feelings were underwhelming to me.  Cool on this?  YOu thought Bill Bishop's statement was underwhelming, while I thought your comment was underwhelming. Problem?  Okay cool,  lets go to
2. What kind of controversy did I turn this in?  Seriously, I've looked back at thread and have no idea what you are saying or implying.   Okay, just for you I'm posting the exact wording I used. "I'm not gonna lie,, I was very underwhelmed with the lack of an "interesting comment" that you took time & energy to write.  We both; not impressed."  What part was so controversial?  Where did I get into the "tizzy", not "tizzy' format?
3.You come back with the ole....well you took the time, so you are bad too attitude. 
4.Your exact comment QUOTE "I rarely 'call anyone out' I normally just say my opinion telling it like it is non-politically, and then people like you or StephenDare usually attack it because it doesn't fit the liberal agenda; Just like the whole Cleveland Arms issue that you got all in a tizzy over. Jax native, you're starting to make even StephenDare look reasonable, being so antagonistic and all. Me and Lakelander don't see eye to eye on some issues, but I NEVER had an uncivil disagreement with him; That's the difference between him, and many others on MJ."
5. How on God's green earth did I become so antagonistic with you or anyone?? How did this turn in to ME not being able to have an "uncivil conversation"'?   
6. I personally, feel you do not have a entirely realistic,  way to articulate facts and in turn take to criticizing anyone who disagrees. 
7. Again, as I have Stated previously, I have no horse in this race on Cleveland Arms shooting by JSO.  I have the legal background to view this as illegal and JSO had no probably cause, except JSO Hackney's multiple interviews.  I don't know the suspect, victim, shooter, or person who was shot.  BUT, I do have concern about the average citizen in Jacksonville, Fl and surrounding areas the right given to us by the USA Constitution. It's not hard, it's clear. There is a giant question about whether JSO had probable cause to shoot this UNARMED (because the taser gig is wrong) man for running from them.  They could arrest him for resisting arrest, but thats a misdemeanor and JSO has no right to shoot to kill a person committing an misdemeanor.
8. JSO has the duty to stop the irrational hysterical conflict happening at the apartments, where they started the battle.  JSO escalated the situation about one million times by their erratic and adrenaline filled reactions. 
9. JSO has the order, law and pledge to not do what they did.  JSO ordered the guy to stop, but then told him, he was being arrested.  JSO had no right.  JSO can not arrest a person accused of misdemeanor and can not arrest unless they witnessed crime.  This is where JSO's story takes a dive.  NOT one person will back up the story of the ONE jSO who pleads he saw the "strangling" of which was not strangling.  The desire for JSO to immediately put this myth out was too much. 
10. JSO was the "tho who protested too much".
11. All this from my experience and knowledge.
12. I don't respond to comments by only making a snarky comments as is obvious many do, so when I see BS, I usually call it out.
13. I saw BS, so i asked you back up comments which you couldn't and you could only reply by calling me names.
14. I'm NOT jaxnative....  I had no idea there was another jaxnative when I chose my name, but I Do Not log in on different names to just agree with myself.
15. I do apologize for other jaxnative... for getting them involved with my comments, becausewe are not one in thesaqme.
16. Any substantive comments will be welcomed.  Any other comments with no knowledge & full of snarky words probably will not be answered.
17. Hopefully this will clear up any misinformation you have or invalid thoughts you have about me. 
18. Again, Thoughtful questions will be answered.

Blah, blah blah, whatever man...

Jax native

Quote from: I-10east on April 03, 2015, 01:35:13 AM
Quote from: Jax native on April 03, 2015, 12:28:52 AM
I'm taking one at a time so you don't get confused;
1. Your "simple comment" what you feel benign is a simple comment.  I then commented I thought your underwhelm feelings were underwhelming to me.  Cool on this?  YOu thought Bill Bishop's statement was underwhelming, while I thought your comment was underwhelming. Problem?  Okay cool,  lets go to
2. What kind of controversy did I turn this in?  Seriously, I've looked back at thread and have no idea what you are saying or implying.   Okay, just for you I'm posting the exact wording I used. "I'm not gonna lie,, I was very underwhelmed with the lack of an "interesting comment" that you took time & energy to write.  We both; not impressed."  What part was so controversial?  Where did I get into the "tizzy", not "tizzy' format?
3.You come back with the ole....well you took the time, so you are bad too attitude. 
4.Your exact comment QUOTE "I rarely 'call anyone out' I normally just say my opinion telling it like it is non-politically, and then people like you or StephenDare usually attack it because it doesn't fit the liberal agenda; Just like the whole Cleveland Arms issue that you got all in a tizzy over. Jax native, you're starting to make even StephenDare look reasonable, being so antagonistic and all. Me and Lakelander don't see eye to eye on some issues, but I NEVER had an uncivil disagreement with him; That's the difference between him, and many others on MJ."
5. How on God's green earth did I become so antagonistic with you or anyone?? How did this turn in to ME not being able to have an "uncivil conversation"'?   
6. I personally, feel you do not have a entirely realistic,  way to articulate facts and in turn take to criticizing anyone who disagrees. 
7. Again, as I have Stated previously, I have no horse in this race on Cleveland Arms shooting by JSO.  I have the legal background to view this as illegal and JSO had no probably cause, except JSO Hackney's multiple interviews.  I don't know the suspect, victim, shooter, or person who was shot.  BUT, I do have concern about the average citizen in Jacksonville, Fl and surrounding areas the right given to us by the USA Constitution. It's not hard, it's clear. There is a giant question about whether JSO had probable cause to shoot this UNARMED (because the taser gig is wrong) man for running from them.  They could arrest him for resisting arrest, but thats a misdemeanor and JSO has no right to shoot to kill a person committing an misdemeanor.
8. JSO has the duty to stop the irrational hysterical conflict happening at the apartments, where they started the battle.  JSO escalated the situation about one million times by their erratic and adrenaline filled reactions. 
9. JSO has the order, law and pledge to not do what they did.  JSO ordered the guy to stop, but then told him, he was being arrested.  JSO had no right.  JSO can not arrest a person accused of misdemeanor and can not arrest unless they witnessed crime.  This is where JSO's story takes a dive.  NOT one person will back up the story of the ONE jSO who pleads he saw the "strangling" of which was not strangling.  The desire for JSO to immediately put this myth out was too much. 
10. JSO was the "tho who protested too much".
11. All this from my experience and knowledge.
12. I don't respond to comments by only making a snarky comments as is obvious many do, so when I see BS, I usually call it out.
13. I saw BS, so i asked you back up comments which you couldn't and you could only reply by calling me names.
14. I'm NOT jaxnative....  I had no idea there was another jaxnative when I chose my name, but I Do Not log in on different names to just agree with myself.
15. I do apologize for other jaxnative... for getting them involved with my comments, becausewe are not one in thesaqme.
16. Any substantive comments will be welcomed.  Any other comments with no knowledge & full of snarky words probably will not be answered.
17. Hopefully this will clear up any misinformation you have or invalid thoughts you have about me. 
18. Again, Thoughtful questions will be answered.

Blah, blah blah, whatever man...

Seriously?  Only preteens and ignorant unknowledgeable people would respond like this.  You haven't any intelligent comments so you rely on blah, blah ,blah.  So does my friends 12 year old.