Obama is Renewing the American Sense of Identity. Unbelievable to Watch

Started by stephendare, May 18, 2008, 08:29:59 PM

stephendare

This story is from today.

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/05/18/record_obama_crowd_the_size_of.html
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Record Obama Crowd, the Size of a City

By Matthew Mosk
PORTLAND, Ore. -- Sen. Barack Obama has seen his share of large crowds over the last 15 months, but his campaign said they have not approached the numbers gathered along the waterfront here right now.

The campaign, citing figures from Duane Bray, battalion chief of Portland Fire & Rescue, estimated that 75,000 people are watching him speak.

The scene suggests this is not an exaggeration. The sea of heads stretches for half a mile along the grassy embankment, while others watch from kayaks and power boats bobbing on the Willamette River. More hug the rails of the steel bridge that stretches across the water and crowds are even watching from jetties on the opposite shore.

http://www.youtube.com/v/jjXyqcx-mYY

RiversideGator

This certainly shows that there are a lot of naive, easily led simpletons in Portland.  I dont know about the "sense of identity" bit though.   ;)

RiversideGator

hahaha.  :D  :D

You really dont believe that Obama is not partisan, do you?  He was rated the most liberal Senator in 2007!  How about this?  Name one bipartisan bill of substance he was an advocate for in the US Senate.

BTW, interesting to see a "conservative" "National Review reader" falling for such vacuous leftist nonsense.  Why dont you just give up the ghost Stephen and admit that you too are now a big liberal?

RiversideGator

Obama has purposefully made himself into a vessel in which naive, disaffected and well meaning people can pour their hopes and dreams.  He is in reality a conventional leftist eager to raise taxes and regulations thereby strangling commerce, encourage abortion, expand 3rd world immigration, weaken penalties for criminals, nationalize health care, and surrender to our foreign enemies.  And, he is highly partisan.  Read his speeches when he talks about substance.  If elected, he will be an utter disaster and a one term wonder.

RiversideGator

Here is a great website for you, Stephen:  http://obamamessiah.blogspot.com/

Obama is a wonderful release for all of your millenarian fantasies.  Better to get back to church than to vote for this fraud.    ;)

RiversideGator

Here he is speaking on how Americans need to radically alter their lifestyles because the rest of the world demands it.  This will play well in Peoria:    ;)

Quote"We can't drive our SUVs and eat as much as we want and keep our homes on 72 degrees at all times ... and then just expect that other countries are going to say OK," Obama said.

"That's not leadership. That's not going to happen," he added.
http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5h-wpxs1Re-8vx2Zk5xnYygW1W67w

RiversideGator

Quote from: stephendare on May 19, 2008, 12:32:35 AM
Quote from: RiversideGator on May 19, 2008, 12:28:04 AM
Obama has purposefully made himself into a vessel in which naive, disaffected and well meaning people can pour their hopes and dreams.  He is in reality a conventional leftist eager to raise taxes and regulations thereby strangling commerce, encourage abortion, expand 3rd world immigration, weaken penalties for criminals, nationalize health care, and surrender to our foreign enemies.  And, he is highly partisan.  Read his speeches when he talks about substance.  If elected, he will be an utter disaster and a one term wonder.
what a load of tripe.
Back up any of it.

I can provide clear and undeniable documentation for all of these positions listed above.  They are those of Barack Obama.  If you do not agree with them, do not vote for this huckster.

RiversideGator

This is great.  A comically but maniacally enthusiastic Obama supporter:


RiversideGator


RiversideGator

The only problem with your rant:  Bush isnt a conservative on a great many issues. 

RiversideGator

If Bush was not a conservative and this is why things went wrong, the answer is not to then vote for a far left candidate like Obama though.  The answer is to work for true conservative ascendancy within the GOP.

BTW, here is an insightful article on Che Obama:

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A Living Lie

By Thomas Sowell

An e-mail from a reader said that, while Hillary Clinton tells lies, Barack Obama is himself a lie. That is becoming painfully apparent with each new revelation of how drastically his carefully crafted image this election year contrasts with what he has actually been saying and doing for many years.

Senator Obama's election year image is that of a man who can bring the country together, overcoming differences of party or race, as well as solving our international problems by talking with Iran and other countries with which we are at odds, and performing other miscellaneous miracles as needed.

There is, of course, not a speck of evidence that Obama has ever transcended party differences in the United States Senate. Voting records analyzed by the National Journal show him to be the farthest left of anyone in the Senate. Nor has he sponsored any significant bipartisan legislation -- nor any other significant legislation, for that matter.

Senator Obama is all talk -- glib talk, exciting talk, confident talk, but still just talk.

Some of his recent talk in San Francisco has stirred up controversy because it revealed yet another blatant contradiction between Barack Obama's public image and his reality.

Speaking privately to supporters in heavily left-liberal San Francisco, Obama let down his hair and described working class people in Pennsylvania as so "bitter" that they "cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them."

Like so much that Obama has said and done over the years, this is standard stuff on the far left, where guns and religion are regarded as signs of psychological dysfunction -- and where opinions different from those of the left are ascribed to emotions ("bitter" in this case), rather than to arguments that need to be answered.

Like so many others on the left, Obama rejects "stereotypes" when they are stereotypes he doesn't like but blithely throws around his own stereotypes about "a typical white person" or "bitter" gun-toting, religious and racist working class people.

In politics, the clearer a statement is, the more certain it is to be followed by a "clarification," when people react adversely to what was plainly said.

Obama and his supporters were still busy "clarifying" Jeremiah Wright's very plain statements when it suddenly became necessary to "clarify" Senator Obama's own statements in San Francisco.

People who have been cheering whistle-blowers for years have suddenly denounced the person who blew the whistle on what Obama said in private that is so contradictory to what he has been saying in public.

However inconsistent Obama's words, his behavior has been remarkably consistent over the years. He has sought out and joined with the radical, anti-Western left, whether Jeremiah Wright, William Ayers of the terrorist Weatherman underground or pro-Palestinian and anti-Israeli Rashid Khalidi.

Obama is also part of a long tradition on the left of being for the working class in the abstract, or as people potentially useful for the purposes of the left, but having disdain or contempt for them as human beings.

Karl Marx said, "The working class is revolutionary or it is nothing." In other words, they mattered only in so far as they were willing to carry out the Marxist agenda.

Fabian socialist George Bernard Shaw included the working class among the "detestable" people who "have no right to live." He added: "I should despair if I did not know that they will all die presently, and that there is no need on earth why they should be replaced by people like themselves."

Similar statements on the left go back as far as Rousseau in the 18th century and come forward into our own times.

It is understandable that young people are so strongly attracted to Obama. Youth is another name for inexperience -- and experience is what is most needed when dealing with skillful and charismatic demagogues.

Those of us old enough to have seen the type again and again over the years can no longer find them exciting. Instead, they are as tedious as they are dangerous.
http://www.townhall.com/columnists/ThomasSowell/2008/04/15/a_living_lie?page=full

RiversideGator

Quote from: stephendare on May 19, 2008, 01:16:42 AM
The entire article has not a single fact in it. Not even a single quote by Obama. 
This is literally a fact free screed about someone whose words are so hard to twist that Sowell (one of the least luminary lights of the conservative movement) cant even quote an entire sentence.

Why?

Because liars like Sowell have been reduced to creating straw men out of the whole cloth of hundred year old quotes from dead socialists.

Obama is not a leftist.  You and Sowell are radical Rightists who have been so long unchallenged in your delusions that you cant accurately define what 'liberal' even means anymore.

What about this quote?  Are these the words of someone who is not a leftist:

Quote"We can't drive our SUVs and eat as much as we want and keep our homes on 72 degrees at all times ... and then just expect that other countries are going to say OK," Obama said.

"That's not leadership. That's not going to happen," he added.
http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5h-wpxs1Re-8vx2Zk5xnYygW1W67w

Let's dissect this truly radical, bizarre and anti-American statement:

1)  "We cant drive our SUVs":  why not?  As Americans we have the freedom to do whatever we want to within the law.  If people can afford to drive SUVs and want them, it is fine with me.

2)  "We cant eat as much as we want":  What??  Now he is attacking obese Americans.  We wont even have the freedom to eat what we please under an Obama regime??  Watch out Stephen.  He's coming for you on this one.   ;)

3)  "We cant keep our homes on 72 degrees all the time":  Really?  Is he advocating that we outlaw central heat and air now?  Perhaps a return to fans only?  Why cant we keep our homes comfortably heated and cooled consistent with our wishes and financial abilities?  Is America now so broken down and bankrupt that under an Obama regime he will have the Feds monitoring our thermostats?  This is truly disturbing and ridiculous.

4)  "and then just expect other countries are going to say, ok":  Why should we care at all about what other countries think about our energy use?  They dont care what we think about their forms of government or economic systems or human rights records but now we have to worry about them.  Perhaps Zimbabwe's Mugabe could control your thermostat, Stephen.  What an absolute joke!

Obama is a smooth sounding prophet of doom.  He is in reality, beneath all the veneer a defeatist loser who thinks American must submit to the wishes of foreign governments and must be brought low because of all of our past "sins".  This is indeed change, but not a kind that America wants or needs. 


Johnny

I see lots of sheep in that picture.

Partisanship really does suck, so how has Obama shown his willingness to support anything coming from the right or worked with a conservative to accomplish anything??


RiversideGator

Quote from: stephendare on May 19, 2008, 02:02:28 PM
What working program initiated by the Right would you want him to adopt johnny?

Give me some idea of what you mean so that I can understand your question.

Did Obama work with McCain to break the judicial logjam in a bipartisan way?  No.  Did he work with McCain to help to fix the immigration mess in a bipartisan way?  No.  Did he sponsor any legislation designed to appeal to moderates?  No.  Has he accomplished anything of substance in his brief tenure in the Illinois legislature or the US Senate?  No again.  All talk, no action.

Name one tangible accomplishment of Obama, other than winning some caucuses and primaries, please.