Intuition Ale Works Moving Downtown

Started by Metro Jacksonville, September 09, 2014, 09:55:01 AM

BridgeTroll

A note of caution if you are looking for a parking spot nearby... it is soccer game day and it will cost $25+ to park tonight
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jaxjaguar

I didn't realize they were going to serve Blacksheep food inside! I can't wait to see this place in person. Manifest Distillery opens on the 25th. Does anyone know if they'll have food as well?

02roadking

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They have done an incredible job with the brewery. Absolutely stunning inside and out. I'm glad you guys gave Downtown the opportunity for the locating the facility down here and look forward to coming in often.
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Captain Zissou

I went on Tuesday and I really only saw about a third of it.  The complex is huge and looks great.  I know that they will be successful in this new location.

Non-RedNeck Westsider

Quote from: Captain Zissou on September 08, 2016, 09:41:34 AM
I went on Tuesday and I really only saw about a third of it.  The complex is huge and looks great.  I know that they will be successful in this new location.

How can they NOT be successful?  IAW (and Bold City) have made the transition to where their profitable on distribution alone.  The taprooms only serve to pad the bottom line.  And good for Ben and his crew.  I'm sure he'd say the same thing, but the amount of money that they're going to start pushing from that location is going to be obscene.  I wouldn't think he's going to lose the regular crowd,  and then you add in all of the additional walk-up traffic from events and general tourists staying downtown...  He just quadrupled what he was bringing in on King St.

Hopefully we'll soon see the same thing from E15 soon.
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02roadking

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Also, Blacksheep has signage up down there and will have a kitchen of sorts...
From Springfield, not isolated at all  ;D
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KenFSU

Quote from: Murder_me_Rachel on September 08, 2016, 12:13:53 PM
Quote from: Non-RedNeck Westsider on September 08, 2016, 10:03:09 AM
Quote from: Captain Zissou on September 08, 2016, 09:41:34 AM
I went on Tuesday and I really only saw about a third of it.  The complex is huge and looks great.  I know that they will be successful in this new location.

How can they NOT be successful?  IAW (and Bold City) have made the transition to where their profitable on distribution alone.  The taprooms only serve to pad the bottom line.  And good for Ben and his crew.  I'm sure he'd say the same thing, but the amount of money that they're going to start pushing from that location is going to be obscene.  I wouldn't think he's going to lose the regular crowd,  and then you add in all of the additional walk-up traffic from events and general tourists staying downtown...  He just quadrupled what he was bringing in on King St.

Hopefully we'll soon see the same thing from E15 soon.

Unless NFL gamedays (10 days a year) bring in some ridiculous revenue, I just don't see it.

What about the Armada? Or the Suns? Or the arena crowd? Or other stadium events? Or concerts at the new amphitheater? Or the fair? Or private events and receptions?

Non-RedNeck Westsider

Quote from: Murder_me_Rachel on September 08, 2016, 12:13:53 PM
...why would this be any different, especially when it's even more isolated and inconvenient?

What Ken said mostly, add in the clustering that Stephen mentioned and then you just add the random tourist that would enjoy visiting a brewery while in town due to the overall craft scene moxie.

Besides, even for your typical King St. crawl, IAW was kind of out of the way.  I'm willing to make a wager that the majority (80-90%) of the regulars that you saw at King St. will be in their same seats.

Besides, there are already some awesome ideas being tossed around for uses of the Doro buildings....  I think the first domino has fallen and I expect the surrounding area to blow up in a way that King St. could only dream since they're not bound by a bunch of preexisting.... well.... anything.  My guess is that there's going to be a residential component soon.  Probably only about 4-6 years behind what you see happening now.
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Tacachale

Quote from: stephendare on September 08, 2016, 12:45:20 PM
Quote from: Murder_me_Rachel on September 08, 2016, 12:13:53 PM
Quote from: Non-RedNeck Westsider on September 08, 2016, 10:03:09 AM
Quote from: Captain Zissou on September 08, 2016, 09:41:34 AM
I went on Tuesday and I really only saw about a third of it.  The complex is huge and looks great.  I know that they will be successful in this new location.

How can they NOT be successful?  IAW (and Bold City) have made the transition to where their profitable on distribution alone.  The taprooms only serve to pad the bottom line.  And good for Ben and his crew.  I'm sure he'd say the same thing, but the amount of money that they're going to start pushing from that location is going to be obscene.  I wouldn't think he's going to lose the regular crowd,  and then you add in all of the additional walk-up traffic from events and general tourists staying downtown...  He just quadrupled what he was bringing in on King St.

Hopefully we'll soon see the same thing from E15 soon.

Unless NFL gamedays (10 days a year) bring in some ridiculous revenue, I just don't see it.  The average person who hit the Riverside taproom (as part of a King Street crawl, or just because it was a great place to grab a good beer), just probably isn't venturing that far downtown at this point.  The core already has several great bars that aren't exactly breaking any revenue records, why would this be any different, especially when it's even more isolated and inconvenient?

I think because it adds yet another venue thats cool, local, and serves a great product with a popular brand recognition.  It will add to the synergy, and frankly, downtown could use Ben Davis' voice in the mix.

Quote from: 02roadking on September 08, 2016, 12:59:19 PM
Also, Blacksheep has signage up down there and will have a kitchen of sorts...
From Springfield, not isolated at all  ;D

Yeah, it's not as if the old building was in a tremendous location, especially back in 2010 before King Street really took off, and it still did well. The current location isn't terribly inconvenient from Riverside, and it's a lot more convenient from Springfield, San Marco, Downtown, and really, everywhere else in the city. Plus, the Jags and other events will likely be a major windfall.

Plus, compared to a number of other breweries in town, Intuition is less reliant on the tap room (though the new taproom is indeed awesome). The canning and kegging operation is a bigger part of the business than for, say, Aardwolf or Green Room. That requires a lot of space and high ceilings. I doubt there are very many spaces comparable in size and price in Riverside or similar neighborhoods.
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mtraininjax

QuoteYeah, it's not as if the old building was in a tremendous location, especially back in 2010 before King Street really took off, and it still did well. The current location isn't terribly inconvenient from Riverside, and it's a lot more convenient from Springfield, San Marco, Downtown, and really, everywhere else in the city. Plus, the Jags and other events will likely be a major windfall.

How many owners has City Pub been through? It was supposedly going to be printing money from all the events downtown.......and its been open and closed and opened and closed more times than one can count. IAW downtown will do well this fall, but look at what happens after fooball season. They better have a LOT more events to drive people down there. Octoberfest has sucked since Memorial Park turned it into a fundraiser. Really wish Ben would bring it back to the new location, there is a lot more room there for it too!
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Tacachale

Quote from: mtraininjax on September 08, 2016, 05:18:40 PM
QuoteYeah, it's not as if the old building was in a tremendous location, especially back in 2010 before King Street really took off, and it still did well. The current location isn't terribly inconvenient from Riverside, and it's a lot more convenient from Springfield, San Marco, Downtown, and really, everywhere else in the city. Plus, the Jags and other events will likely be a major windfall.

How many owners has City Pub been through? It was supposedly going to be printing money from all the events downtown.......and its been open and closed and opened and closed more times than one can count. IAW downtown will do well this fall, but look at what happens after fooball season. They better have a LOT more events to drive people down there. Octoberfest has sucked since Memorial Park turned it into a fundraiser. Really wish Ben would bring it back to the new location, there is a lot more room there for it too!

The pub doesn't have the draw that Intuition does. If Intuition could draw people to a industrial stretch in what was widely perceived as a distressed area of Riverside, they can draw people to the well known and easily accessible stadium district.
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edjax

Quote from: mtraininjax on September 08, 2016, 05:18:40 PM
QuoteYeah, it's not as if the old building was in a tremendous location, especially back in 2010 before King Street really took off, and it still did well. The current location isn't terribly inconvenient from Riverside, and it's a lot more convenient from Springfield, San Marco, Downtown, and really, everywhere else in the city. Plus, the Jags and other events will likely be a major windfall.

How many owners has City Pub been through? It was supposedly going to be printing money from all the events downtown.......and its been open and closed and opened and closed more times than one can count. IAW downtown will do well this fall, but look at what happens after fooball season. They better have a LOT more events to drive people down there. Octoberfest has sucked since Memorial Park turned it into a fundraiser. Really wish Ben would bring it back to the new location, there is a lot more room there for it too!

They are having Oktoberfest at the new location on 9/17.  Bought my tickets yesterday. 

lastdaysoffla

Does anybody have any pictures from the new location?

MusicMan

It's a nice space. Pleasant surprise to see Black Sheep in there, wonder what type of grub they will offer.

There is no way the one U shaped bar can possibly accommodate a big crowd, so I hope there will be satellite stations/taps placed strategically around the place to serve the beer.

The Hawaiian food truck was good. They sold a lot of food that night.

Should be rockin' on Sunday, 'specially if the Jags win.

Burnbabyburn

Quote from: mtraininjax on September 08, 2016, 05:18:40 PM
QuoteYeah, it's not as if the old building was in a tremendous location, especially back in 2010 before King Street really took off, and it still did well. The current location isn't terribly inconvenient from Riverside, and it's a lot more convenient from Springfield, San Marco, Downtown, and really, everywhere else in the city. Plus, the Jags and other events will likely be a major windfall.

How many owners has City Pub been through? It was supposedly going to be printing money from all the events downtown.......and its been open and closed and opened and closed more times than one can count. IAW downtown will do well this fall, but look at what happens after fooball season. They better have a LOT more events to drive people down there. Octoberfest has sucked since Memorial Park turned it into a fundraiser. Really wish Ben would bring it back to the new location, there is a lot more room there for it too!

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