Regency Court Closings

Started by coredumped, December 24, 2013, 10:28:25 AM

coredumped

I was at Regency Court (the plaza across from regency) and saw that Sports Authority was closing. Not suprising really, they seem to be hurting nationally with competition from Dicks and Academy.
A few months ago OfficeDepot moved down the street, this leaves Rooms To Go as the only anchor in there. There's still lots of shops in there though (woodcraft, honey baked ham, etc).
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riverside planner

That is such an awkward shopping center in terms of access and sight design.

coredumped

Quote from: riverside planner on December 24, 2013, 10:35:09 AM
That is such an awkward shopping center in terms of access and sight design.

I wouldn't argue that :) The owner of the plaza recently redid the whole thing. New facing on the building, resurfaced the parking lot and added trees to it.

That longhorn does pretty good still.

Regency & Area is just begging for someone with deep pockets to revitalize it. There's so many people in that area it's such a missed opportunity.
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duvaldude08

Quote from: coredumped on December 24, 2013, 11:54:43 AM
Quote from: riverside planner on December 24, 2013, 10:35:09 AM
That is such an awkward shopping center in terms of access and sight design.

I wouldn't argue that :) The owner of the plaza recently redid the whole thing. New facing on the building, resurfaced the parking lot and added trees to it.

That longhorn does pretty good still.

Regency & Area is just begging for someone with deep pockets to revitalize it. There's so many people in that area it's such a missed opportunity.

That is why i am, and always will be fond of the area. Regency Mall and the area just needs a reboot. There is plenty of traffic and residents for the area to thrive again. And to be honest, the area is fine. The mall is what has died.
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thelakelander

The area is viable but new growth three miles down the street is eating its market base. That will make life as a retail center hard to maintain.
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thelakelander

Seems the retailers are moving down the street to newer gigs. Lots of stuff going to Atlantic and Kernan, at the expense of the aging Regency area.
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coredumped

Quote from: duvaldude08 on December 24, 2013, 11:59:16 AM
That is why i am, and always will be fond of the area. Regency Mall and the area just needs a reboot. There is plenty of traffic and residents for the area to thrive again. And to be honest, the area is fine. The mall is what has died.

I agree, being such dense area you know people drive right past regency to go to the SJTC. Regency needs to give them a reason to stop in instead of just driving by.

I wonder how the hunt for a buyer for Regency is going. If that mall could make a bit of a come back I'd expect the whole area to pick up, big time.
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thelakelander

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Quote from: stephendare on December 24, 2013, 12:30:13 PM
yes.  thats how neighborhoods decline.

Doesn't have to be that way but that's the pattern our local zoning regulations create. One of the worst things with Mayoral change was the loss of Killingsworth before he had the chance to revamp our zoning situation.
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fieldafm

QuoteThe area is viable but new growth three miles down the street is eating its market base.

I seem to remember a conversation with Simms here where he was trying to rebut my premise that strip malls are by and large predatory in nature.  Regency is the perfect example.

coredumped

I think if some "hipster*" type place would go in the area it would help, something like Moxi or BJs. The restaurant scene on atlantic does very well (ole, la nop, ocharlys, ale house, outback, longhorn, etc etc etc....).

*Not meant to be derogatory, but I mean "hip" places.
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coredumped

Quote from: thelakelander on December 24, 2013, 12:13:38 PM
Seems the retailers are moving down the street to newer gigs. Lots of stuff going to Atlantic and Kernan, at the expense of the aging Regency area.

Any idea why the Avenues isn't struggling as much as Regency? According to gmaps, regency is just a bit further to the SJTC than the avenues is to the town center. The avenues has some good competition too.
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chipwich

Quote from: coredumped on December 24, 2013, 05:23:32 PM
Quote from: thelakelander on December 24, 2013, 12:13:38 PM
Seems the retailers are moving down the street to newer gigs. Lots of stuff going to Atlantic and Kernan, at the expense of the aging Regency area.

Any idea why the Avenues isn't struggling as much as Regency? According to gmaps, regency is just a bit further to the SJTC than the avenues is to the town center. The avenues has some good competition too.

Higher income levels surrounding the Avenues, plus close proximity to Mandarin and St. Johns County. 

West Arlington tends to have lower income levels, East Arlington is now being served by Atlantic/ Kernan and the 9A/ 295 overpass is easy to access.

ProjectMaximus

Quote from: coredumped on December 24, 2013, 05:23:32 PM
Quote from: thelakelander on December 24, 2013, 12:13:38 PM
Seems the retailers are moving down the street to newer gigs. Lots of stuff going to Atlantic and Kernan, at the expense of the aging Regency area.

Any idea why the Avenues isn't struggling as much as Regency? According to gmaps, regency is just a bit further to the SJTC than the avenues is to the town center. The avenues has some good competition too.

Regency was in major decline when the SJTC went in to fill that void. Avenues never really struggled, and has continued to maintain and expand over the past decade.

tufsu1

Quote from: stephendare on December 24, 2013, 12:30:13 PM
yes.  thats how neighborhoods decline.  and sadly, residential demographics follow retail demographics.

quite often, the reverse is true...part of Regency's problem is the decline in average household income in the surrounding area (as compared to other parts of the region).

That said, I spent some time at Regency Square today...and the parts of the mall that are still occupied seemed to be doing pretty good.

tufsu1

Quote from: ProjectMaximus on December 24, 2013, 06:32:55 PM
Quote from: coredumped on December 24, 2013, 05:23:32 PM
Quote from: thelakelander on December 24, 2013, 12:13:38 PM
Seems the retailers are moving down the street to newer gigs. Lots of stuff going to Atlantic and Kernan, at the expense of the aging Regency area.

Any idea why the Avenues isn't struggling as much as Regency? According to gmaps, regency is just a bit further to the SJTC than the avenues is to the town center. The avenues has some good competition too.

Regency was in major decline when the SJTC went in to fill that void. Avenues never really struggled, and has continued to maintain and expand over the past decade.

Avenues has also retooled....since Simon owns both malls (plus Orange Park) they are positioning them for different purposes.