FDOT finds $120 million: Fuller Warren to be widened

[ricker]

At this point emails to FDOT are appropriate.  The comment period for the proposed Work Program is open until December 31.

Written comments will be received by the Department until December 31, 2013, and should be addressed to:
Mr. Greg Evans, FDOT District Two Secretary
1109 S. Marion Avenue, Mail Station 2000
Lake City, FL 32025-5874
(800) 749-2967 ext. 7800
Greg.Evans@dot.state.fl.us

[tayana42]

Did no one learn anything from Jeff Speck's presentation earlier this week?  Here's his TED talk: 
http://www.ted.com/talks/jeff_speck_the_walkable_city.html

This bridge project is so wrong, so unimaginative, so much a failure regarding the neighborhoods/bikers/pedestrians, and it needs to be stopped.

[thelakelander]

Something tells me that listening to Jeff Speck isn't a high priority of FDOT.

[Lunican]

I told some of my friends in Chicago and NYC about these extra lanes on the Fuller Warren and they are really excited to get down to Jax asap.

Just kidding. They actually asked if Jacksonville is on the east or west coast of Florida.

[mtraininjax]

take some of N. Riverside.

Have you been through North Riverside lately? Anything with a bulldozer would be welcome.

[fieldafm]

take some of N. Riverside.

Have you been through North Riverside lately? Anything with a bulldozer would be welcome.

Which was the result of previous highway expansions.  This latest highway expansion would further encroach upon the neighborhood... pushing the present condition you speak of even further into the neighborhood (.  One action always causes multiple reactions. 

Wouldn't it be wonderful if Ernest and Dellwood looked like Roselle Street now? (That's sarcasm, btw)

[fsujax]

Lunican it's not our fault your friends aren't good with geography. If there was any will within FDOT to allocate the funds to other projects, it could be done. The TPO could see that it happens.

[David]

I told some of my friends in Chicago and NYC about these extra lanes on the Fuller Warren and they are really excited to get down to Jax asap.

Just kidding. They actually asked if Jacksonville is on the east or west coast of Florida.

Haha. Then they asked "your interstates are only 3 lanes wide in most places? Sorry, we can't visit there. We only frequent cities with 10 lane highways at a minimal.

I was a little overzealous in my love of (driving on) super highways at first. I can see why people are upset about this project now. I'll stick with my trips to Atlanta to satisfy my love of doing 90 and zipping across 8 lanes of traffic to fast paced electronic music.

And I'm more interested in the lane expansions further south on 95 anyhoo. No one cares about that right? No dog parks will be displaced off Baymeadows or 295.

[cline]

I told some of my friends in Chicago and NYC about these extra lanes on the Fuller Warren and they are really excited to get down to Jax asap.

Just kidding. They actually asked if Jacksonville is on the east or west coast of Florida.

And I'm more interested in the lane expansions further south on 95 anyhoo. No one cares about that right? No dog parks will be displaced off  Baymeadows or 295.

I'm sure people do care.  Are they going to be tearing down office buildings and houses?  This project affects the neighborhood I live in which is why I care. 

[David]

^ I don't think the toll lanes being built will affect any housing on the south end of town. Should be plenty of existing ROW to complete it.

I see your point about the Fuller Warren project. That would upset me too.

[cline]

^ I don't think the toll lanes being built will affect any housing on the south end of town. Should be plenty of existing ROW to complete it.

I see your point about the Fuller Warren project. That would upset me too.

That's the rub though.  We're pretty much out of space to expand this thing anymore without tearing down structures.  If we don't say enough is enough now then 20 years from now we will be having this same conversation except it will be about expanding it to 18 lanes or something crazy.  When does it end?

[thelakelander]

I was a little overzealous in my love of (driving on) super highways at first. I can see why people are upset about this project now. I'll stick with my trips to Atlanta to satisfy my love of doing 90 and zipping across 8 lanes of traffic to fast paced electronic music.

Well Atlanta's MSA is over 5 million and eats up a chunk of Georgia. One the other hand, Jax's MSA hasn't even cracked 1.5 million. Anyway, you must be zipping through at 3am in the morning.  All those lanes are clogged during the weekdays.

[fieldafm]

I'll stick with my trips to Atlanta to satisfy my love of doing 90 and zipping across 8 lanes of traffic to fast paced electronic music.

Average commute time in Atlanta is in a different (much worse) universe than Jacksonville.  My rush hour commute was well North of an hour each way.  I can get from Fairfax to the Town Center(which is a fairly lenghty trip) in well under a half hour in the morning and in the afternoon.

[Traveller]

I was in Houston a few weeks ago on business, listening to local sports radio during rush hour.  It was the first time I had ever heard traffic updates (time from Point A to Point B) expressed in terms of hours rather than minutes.

[Dog Walker]

You see how successful Atlanta and Houston were in building their way out of traffic congestion.

"IF YOU BUILD IT THEY WILL COME!"  The reverse of that is that if you don't build it, they will find another route.