FDOT finds $120 million: Fuller Warren to be widened

[thelakelander]

^The way the preliminary drawing looks to me, some work may include reconfiguring existing lane/shoulder widths to accommodate the extra lane in that section. Kay is right about the flyover. There will probably be some noise impacts in the neighborhood below it.  I also notice that the flyover appears to be in the bed of a creek that feeds McCoys Creek. What's the plan for runoff?  Will a stormwater pond be required?

[cline]

lake,

what was the general consensus with the TPO Board...where they in favor or no?

[thelakelander]

It seemed mixed. Councilman Bishop was very critical of the process and questioned the project altogether. Others seemed to believe the work was needed and that everything should be done to keep the $130 million local.

[Lunican]

I guess using the $130 million on something other than roads is completely out of the question?

[thelakelander]

Yes. Basically, they've boxed us into the position of it's going to this project or to another city.

[cline]

^Such BS.  Our own Governor didn't have any problems killing HSR and giving that money to another city.

[thelakelander]

That's the local decision the community will have to make either way. Scott told the Feds no and had no problem seeing that HSR money go to other states, so the precedence for turning down money is there.

[dougskiles]

It wouldn't bother me if they sent they money elsewhere.

Save for a few years between projects, the stretch of I-95 between I-10 and Emerson has been underconstruction for about the last 15 years.  I can't imagine something causng more congestion than a full blown construction project.  The best congestion relief policy FDOT could adopt would be a moratorium on highway construction.

[thelakelander]

Just looking at my notes from today's TPO meeting. Something else I found interesting was what sounded like a list of priorities at FDOT. It's a great help in understanding how and why certain decisions are made and certain projects pushed instead of others.

1. Safety (this project falls in this category)
2. Resurfacing/Preservation (maintenance of existing facilities)
3. Bridge replacement program
4. Capacity (most roadway expansion projects)

Other stuff they do too

Traffic Ops
Enhancements
Public Transportation
Off-Systems Projects

[L.P. Hovercraft]

Save for a few years between projects, the stretch of I-95 between I-10 and Emerson has been underconstruction for about the last 15 years.  I can't imagine something causng more congestion than a full blown construction project.  The best congestion relief policy FDOT could adopt would be a moratorium on highway construction.

A moratorium on road construction?!  Surely you jest!

Cripes, what a boondoggle.   Good work if you can get it though--talk about job security.

[tufsu1]

I guess using the $130 million on something other than roads is completely out of the question?

maybe...nut proabbly only if it is another Strategic Intrastate System (SIS) highway project

[Non-RedNeck Westsider]

Can someone please clarify how much of the $130M they're expecting to keep 'local'?

Overland Bridge Project Contractor:
Archer Western Contractors, Inc. of Tampa

9B Contractor:
Archer Western Contractors
Atlanta, GA

295 / Collins Rd Contractor:
Superior Construction Co
2045 E Dunes Hwy, Gary, IN 46402

Matthews Bridge (Ongoing Maintenance and Repairs):
Intech Contracting, LLC of Lexington, Kentucky


I'm sure they source plenty of concrete/substrate etc from Gate.  And they probably hire some local subs to do some of the work, but seriously???  We don't to lost the $130M for this area?  Puh-leeze.

[jph]

Can someone please clarify how much of the $130M they're expecting to keep 'local'?

Overland Bridge Project Contractor:
Archer Western Contractors, Inc. of Tampa

9B Contractor:
Archer Western Contractors
Atlanta, GA

295 / Collins Rd Contractor:
Superior Construction Co
2045 E Dunes Hwy, Gary, IN 46402

Matthews Bridge (Ongoing Maintenance and Repairs):
Intech Contracting, LLC of Lexington, Kentucky


I'm sure they source plenty of concrete/substrate etc from Gate.  And they probably hire some local subs to do some of the work, but seriously???  We don't to lost the $130M for this area?  Puh-leeze.

Ah, but the physical capital stays here in Jax. Think how much money we'll make as the highway appreciates in value with each passing semi truck.

[ricker]

*not directed at anyone in particular

Instead of rallying and pouting, is it possible that we could more effectively account for our gray hairs and hoarse voices by relentlessly reaching out to secure the inclusion of sound walls along I-10 between Luna and the FDOT Urban office along with pedestrian facilities in both directions over the Fuller Warren between Park and Palm?

Has it been made public how many blocks and of which 3 streets will be "realigned" (closed) in order to accommodate a pricey retention pond?

Imagine how much better the signage and greenery could be throughout this zone with plenty of dollars left over for pedestrian and biking facilities over the bridge if we were successful in 86ing the flyover!?!?

[ricker]

We cannot forget about the proposed flyover which will greatly exacerbate the noise in the neighborhood and take some of N. Riverside.

Is it possible to successfully seek the implementation of a maximum speed of 45MPH between Luna and Palm in order to reduce excessive noise?