Gulliford to DIA: Cut 'the fluff' and do something

Started by thelakelander, November 05, 2013, 09:43:28 AM

thelakelander

QuoteCity Council President Bill Gulliford isn't ready to disclose his next appointment to the Downtown Investment Authority, but he'll tell you exactly the type of person he's looking for: "An action person," who isn't afraid to shake things up.

"Sometimes people who get things done step on toes, and that's fine," Gulliford said Monday. "I just want to see some activity. We created this thing to see some action."

Gulliford said he'd be ready to announce his appointment within the next week, who will replace Vice Chairman Jim Bailey, who resigned in mid-September.

full article: http://www.bizjournals.com/jacksonville/news/2013/11/04/gulliford-to-downtown-authority-cut.html
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CityLife

There is some speculation that Gulliford is posturing for a mayoral run. In which case, I imagine he's going to be watching DIA for results like a hawk. Though I guess you can say that about whoever is planning to challenge Brown. Without tangible results by the DIA by next election, he's toast.

Tacachale

Do you believe that when the blue jay or another bird sings and the body is trembling, that is a signal that people are coming or something important is about to happen?


urbanlibertarian

Quote from: CityLife on November 05, 2013, 09:53:26 AM
There is some speculation that Gulliford is posturing for a mayoral run. In which case, I imagine he's going to be watching DIA for results like a hawk. Though I guess you can say that about whoever is planning to challenge Brown. Without tangible results by the DIA by next election, he's toast.

I hear that Gulliford won't be running because of his age and also his business is suffering without him.
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FSBA

Quote from: CityLife on November 05, 2013, 09:53:26 AM
There is some speculation that Gulliford is posturing for a mayoral run. In which case, I imagine he's going to be watching DIA for results like a hawk. Though I guess you can say that about whoever is planning to challenge Brown. Without tangible results by the DIA by next election, he's toast.

Brown is far from toast. If the city gets its usually 20-30% turnout and Northwest Jacksonville turns out in droves again Brown will likely get a 2nd term.
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CityLife

Quote from: FSBA on November 05, 2013, 01:20:40 PM
Quote from: CityLife on November 05, 2013, 09:53:26 AM
There is some speculation that Gulliford is posturing for a mayoral run. In which case, I imagine he's going to be watching DIA for results like a hawk. Though I guess you can say that about whoever is planning to challenge Brown. Without tangible results by the DIA by next election, he's toast.

Brown is far from toast. If the city gets its usually 20-30% turnout and Northwest Jacksonville turns out in droves again Brown will likely get a 2nd term.

Its pretty widely accepted/known that Brown won the runoff with Hogan because he had the support of practically every white person in Jax that cares about downtown. Riverside/Avondale, Ortega, San Marco, St. Nicholas, Mirimar, and other similar neighborhoods won't be so kind if he can't get anything accomplished DT.

PeeJayEss

Quote from: FSBA on November 05, 2013, 01:20:40 PM
Quote from: CityLife on November 05, 2013, 09:53:26 AM
There is some speculation that Gulliford is posturing for a mayoral run. In which case, I imagine he's going to be watching DIA for results like a hawk. Though I guess you can say that about whoever is planning to challenge Brown. Without tangible results by the DIA by next election, he's toast.

Brown is far from toast. If the city gets its usually 20-30% turnout and Northwest Jacksonville turns out in droves again Brown will likely get a 2nd term.

Assuming he is running against another incredibly horrible candidate.

fieldafm

#8
QuoteIts pretty widely accepted/known that Brown won the runoff with Hogan because he had the support of practically every white person in Jax that cares about downtown

Want to know why Brown really won?  B/c Hogan voters didnt turn out.  Brown actually received about the same amount of votes that Nat Glover did when he ran for mayor... only difference, Hogan got about 30% less votes than John Peyton did.  People didn't swing Alvin Brown's way in any signifigant sense, they just stayed at home and didnt vote for Mike Hogan.

Ignore the trumped up approval ratings.  Brown is pretty beatable.


QuoteThere is some speculation that Gulliford is posturing for a mayoral run.

He won't.



Regarding Gulliford's sentiments about DIA: 

Quote"An action person," who isn't afraid to shake things up.

He's right. 

CityLife

Quote from: fieldafm on November 05, 2013, 01:39:16 PM
QuoteIts pretty widely accepted/known that Brown won the runoff with Hogan because he had the support of practically every white person in Jax that cares about downtown

Want to know why Brown really won?  B/c Hogan voters didnt turn out.  Brown actually received about the same amount of votes that Nat Glover did when he ran for mayor... only difference, Hogan got about 30% less votes than John Peyton did.  People didn't swing Alvin Brown's way in any signifigant sense, they just stayed at home and didnt vote for Mike Hogan.

Brown may have received the same amount of votes as Glover, but that doesn't mean the each received the same amount of votes from African Americans. A substantial amount of white Moran supporters (mostly in town neighborhood people) backed Brown over Hogan, and that is what ultimately won the election in my estimation, along with moderate republicans staying home. Neither of those two things will happen again if Brown can't get it together.

I don't think Guilliford will run, but I think he'll end up being the attack dog for whoever does.

Cheshire Cat

Quote from: fieldafm on November 05, 2013, 01:39:16 PM
QuoteIts pretty widely accepted/known that Brown won the runoff with Hogan because he had the support of practically every white person in Jax that cares about downtown

Want to know why Brown really won?  B/c Hogan voters didnt turn out.  Brown actually received about the same amount of votes that Nat Glover did when he ran for mayor... only difference, Hogan got about 30% less votes than John Peyton did.  People didn't swing Alvin Brown's way in any signifigant sense, they just stayed at home and didnt vote for Mike Hogan.

Ignore the trumped up approval ratings.  Brown is pretty beatable.


QuoteThere is some speculation that Gulliford is posturing for a mayoral run.

He won't.



Regarding Gulliford's sentiments about DIA: 

Quote"An action person," who isn't afraid to shake things up.

He's right. 
You are bang on with this statement Mike and this is indeed what threw the election Brown's way.  The Republican party thought they had this election and as a result folks who normally would have come out to vote didn't bother thinking this was a done deal.  CityLife, while some of Moran's votes went to Brown it was not enough to force the win.  It was Hogan's Republican supporters not getting to the polls and both the Hogan camp and Republican party know this is what happened. 
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Tacachale

Enough votes must have swung over to allow an unknown candidate to get as many votes as a well known and respected sheriff had gotten 8 years before. Though of course plenty more just stayed home or wrote in "Audrey" or "Rick" in desperation.
Do you believe that when the blue jay or another bird sings and the body is trembling, that is a signal that people are coming or something important is about to happen?

CityLife

Quote from: Tacachale on November 05, 2013, 03:29:15 PM
Enough votes must have swung over to allow an unknown candidate to get as many votes as a well known and respected sheriff had gotten 8 years before. Though of course plenty more just stayed home or wrote in "Audrey" or "Rick" in desperation.

I seem to remember that Alvin didn't get nearly the support that Glover did from the African-American community, so you're right, enough must have swung over. Anyone have the hard data from the election?

fieldafm

#13
Alvin Brown (DEM)   50.43% 97,307 votes
Mike Hogan (REP)    49.57% 95,645 votes

Nat Glover (DEM)     42.00%  96,714 votes
John Peyton (REP)   58.00%  133,554 votes

In 2011 Alvin Brown picked up exactly 593 votes (a statistical non-event) more than Nat Glover in 2004.

37,316 less people came out to vote for Mike Hogan over John Peyton.


CityLife

#14
I meant stats like voter turnout by geography and race. I think the TU has it, but its behind a firewall.

Field you are assuming that Peyton=Hogan and Glover=Brown. I know quite a few people that voted for both Peyton and Brown. So I don't think you can analyze the two elections the same way. Hypothetically 20,000 less African Americans could have turned out to vote for Brown than did for Glover, while Brown could have made his gains on some who voted for Peyton.