Da "U" is Back! Gators already skinned. Seminole's next!

[thelakelander]

Are you FSU guys as nervous as Jameis?

[I-10east]

Five hours and counting...

What's your hunch on how the verdict will go? I'll be very surprised if Winston is found guilty.

[thelakelander]

If I had to guess, I'd agree that there will be no charges. However, Jameis should stay away from cleat chasers.

[I-10east]

^^^Just like Will Smith said once "Girls of the World Ain't Nothing but Trouble".

[KenFSU]

^^^Just like Will Smith said once "Girls of the World Ain't Nothing but Trouble".

Winston has his own press conference scheduled immediately afterwards from what I understand.

You'd think his legal team would advise against such a thing if felony charges were handed down.

I've got a conference room at work reserved for 2:00

[I-10east]

^^^I admit, the best use of the 'cheesy emoticon' EVER! LMAO

[thelakelander]

^^^Just like Will Smith said once "Girls of the World Ain't Nothing but Trouble".

Women are actually great.  The world would truly suck without them. Jameis just needs to be a smarter captain. Not all harbors are worth taking your ship into.

[I-10east]

Women are actually great.  The world would truly suck without them.

Don't get me wrong, I love women. I wasn't on some anti-woman thing, just only the gold digger/cleat chaser types.

[JeffreyS]

^^^Just like Will Smith said once "Girls of the World Ain't Nothing but Trouble".

Winston has his own press conference scheduled immediately afterwards from what I understand.

You'd think his legal team would advise against such a thing if felony charges were handed down.

I've got a conference room at work reserved for 2:00

He will be reading a statement prepared by the legal team.

[KenFSU]

The un-redacted police report has leaked, and it appears favorable for Winston:

Charges not expected for Jameis Winston: Commentary on the unredacted police report

By Bud Elliott @SBNRecruiting on Dec 5 2013, 10:44a 102
Steve Mitchell-USA TODAY Sports

Based on sources and other information, including the original, unredacted police report, a copy of which Tomahawk Nation has obtained, I am confident that Jameis Winston will not be charged in the investigation of an alleged sexual battery from December 7, 2012.

As I wrote on November 25, State Attorney Willie Meggs said that he would not bring charges unless he has "a reasonable likelihood of conviction at trial."

For sexual battery cases in which consent, and not the existence of a sexual encounter, is in dispute, like this one, credibility of the complainant is perhaps the most important factor for the State Attorney to consider.

The unredacted police report contains at least four different versions of events given to investigators. Two were given by the complainant herself. Two are told by the complainant's friends to the police, as they claim were told to them by the complainant. The complainant's memory of the night in question is incomplete, for a reason that is not clear.

According to the report, the complainant twice described the male as black, with a dark complexion, and hair that needed to be cut. However, the report indicates that she first described the suspect as being 6'2, but less than 24 hours later, claimed that he was 5'9 to 5'11. On January 11, the report indicates that the complainant identified Jameis Winston, who more closely resembles the first description than the second (Winston is 6'4).

The report says that she first described the male who witnessed the sexual encounter in relation to the suspect as being "not as big and having dreads." But in the second interview, the report says that she says the male was "bigger, but not taller" than the suspect.

The complainant maintains in both stories that she had five "vodka drinks." In one version, the complainant mentions taking shots, but that she was told about taking the shots, and does not remember taking them. However, the detective interviewing the complainant noted in the report that the complainant "appeared to be very tired, but not intoxicated." The complainant's family later claimed that the detective told the family that the complainant's blood work results showed that she was not intoxicated, a laboratory finding consistent with the detective's observation.

The complainant is not the one who called police. Instead, her friend did. The CAD notes from the friend's call to police indicate that the complainant claimed she was hit on the head and was blacking out during the incident.

Another friend told police that the complainant told her she was hit on the head at a party and had blacked out when the incident occurred. That is the only mention of a party in the report.

The police also retrieved text messages and phone records from the complainant's phone and cellular provider.

The friend who told the police about the complainant's claim of being hit on the head at a party also seems to be the one who first told the complainant's parents on the night in question, indicating to police that she was sorry for telling the complainant's parents despite the complainant's request not to do so.

Also, 72 minutes after the police were contacted, the complainant received a text from an unknown individual stating "I got spa-2." The complainant immediately replied via text "will you text me the answers pleaseeee." "Spa-2" is not a listed class at Florida State University, but finals were going on during the time period and continuing into the next week, and "Spa-2" could be an abbreviation for a course.

The end of the police report says that the case is being suspended due to a lack of cooperation from the victim -- a claim that the victim's family disputed in a statement, but that if the victim decides to press charges, the case will be pursued.

Given the potential credibility issues presented by the contradicting stories given to police, and the lack of evidence of intoxication or so called "date rape" drugs in the complainant's system to perhaps explain the inconsistencies, the complainant's credibility could be an issue.

And sources indicate those issues, along with a lack of overall evidence, are compelling.

There are other factors pointing to charges not being brought, as well. Winston's attorney has indicated that he has two exculpatory eye-witnesses who gave affidavits to police. Tomahawk Nation has learned that neither witness's DNA was matched to the second DNA sample obtained from the complainant.

Willie Meggs is scheduled to announce his findings at 2 pm Thursday. According to prominent defense attorney Chuck Hobbs, this could indicate that Meggs is unlikely to charge Winston.

    "It sends a strong signal that Jameis Winston will not be charged and Mr. Meggs will use the press conference to explain the results of the thorough investigation that his office completed over the past few weeks," Chuck Hobbs, a defense attorney who previously worked for Meggs in the state attorney's office, told Yahoo Sports on Wednesday evening. -- Yahoo

Calls seeking comment from the complainant's attorney were not returned before publishing.

Winston's attorney said Wednesday that he and his client will have a press conference some point after the Willie Meggs press conference. Florida State will fly to Charlotte Thursday night for Saturday's ACC Title Game.

Tomahawk Nation will continue to bring you live coverage of this story throughout the day.

[tufsu1]

^^^Just like Will Smith said once "Girls of the World Ain't Nothing but Trouble".

Women are actually great.  The world would truly suck without them. Jameis just needs to be a smarter captain. Not all harbors are worth taking your ship into.

that why we need to dredge

[CityLife]

Five hours and counting...

What's your hunch on how the verdict will go? I'll be very surprised if Winston is found guilty.

Verdict?? Huh? He was never even charged. This is about whether or not the SA will press charges.

At this point, it is looking more likely that the accuser will have charges filed against her for filing a false police report. I'm not sure if it has been reported yet, but I've heard the 2nd DNA test came back (Tuesday I believe) and contradicted her story. Basically, they found 2 different people's DNA's in her underwear. 1 was Jameis and the other was not who she had claimed it was (I believe his roommate).

All signs point to not pressing charges. It will be interesting to see the full story after everything comes out.

[mbwright]

So good to know that police cases like this are held with great confidentiality.  Somebody must be making a fortune from providing all of these 'leaks' to the media.
If her stories are false, she should be charged, and arrested, along with those providing leaks.  Would not be bad if old Willie resigned or retired permanently.

[CityLife]

So Jameis isn't getting charged according to Jeff Cameron an ESPN radio guy in Tally who is plugged in...and I've also heard they won't be pressing charges against the girl, though they could if they wanted. One person told me Jameis's family didn't want to press charges. Another said the SA doesn't want to charge her, for fear that it will deter actual rape victims from coming forward in the future.

[fsujax]

Good. Hopefully the media can move on now.