2014 Budget Meeting is Still on at City Hall

[Cheshire Cat]

No veto's, the budget is finalized.  Brown returns document "without" his signature.  It will automatically become finalized.  So we have a mayor who was unable to deliver a viable budget which left all the work to the council.  When the work was done, he refused to sign off on it.  My guess is he is hoping to get votes by doing this in the next election.  My observation is that his "no sign" is just another slap at a council he already has little rapport with. 

http://news.wjct.org/post/no-mayoral-vetoes-jacksonvilles-2013-14-budget-finalized#.Ukmy4oBOGRo.facebook

By Kevin Meerschaert   

The budget for the city of Jacksonville has been finalized. Mayor Alvin Brown returned the budget ordinances to the Jacksonville City Council today without his signature, which automatically enacts the legislation.

Brown also declined to use his line-item veto authority, "in order to focus on ways that we can work together to improve the community," he said in a letter to City Council President Bill Gulliford.

In the letter Brown went on to say that with the budget process at an end he looks forward to working with council members to achieve goals related to pension reform, enhancing education, revitalizing downtown and boosting quality of life in the city by focusing on parks, housing, and public-private partnerships.

The city's 2013-'14 budget goes into effect Tuesday.

The council voted to approve the budget on the evening of Sept. 25 following weeks of committee meetings and about seventeen hours of debate.

So be it Mayor Brown who you voted for Cheshire Cat I do believe? Had a pension plan that this city council shot down. So he is playing politics just like John Peyton did and mayors before him. Now I hate the fact that the Meals on Wheels program will loss $181,000 dollars I wish the Mayor would have veto this but he didn't. Mayor Brown good luck with your last two years and remember a lot of people still support you.

What you believe and what is true as usual are two completely different things.  I did not vote for Alvin Brown.  Please do not think this entry means I am interested in a dialog.  Just want to keep the record straight. 

[Cheshire Cat]

The mayor decides not to veto and not to sign the budget while claiming he is looking forward to working closely with council.  Translation, he knew a council meeting was scheduled for 1:00PM by the council and the agenda would have been to "override" any and all veto's by Brown. He was left with no choice but comply with resistance.  Long story short, Brown has failed at leadership and the power void in his administration has been filled by leadership on the council.  Time will tell what impact this lopsided administration will have had on this city and it's progress.  That next level Brown boasted about will only go up a notch because the reigns of leadershop have been snatched from the hands of a big talker who really cannot do the job of mayor.  That is my opinion. 

By David Bauerlein
Mayor Alvin Brown told the Jacksonville City Council on Monday he will not use his line-item veto authority to strike any spending from the 2013-14 budget approved by council.
"In order to focus on ways that we can work together to improve our community, I have decided not to exercise my line-item veto authority," Brown wrote in a letter to the council.
Brown did not sign the ordinances enacting the budget and accompanying tax rate increases to council. But he stopped short of vetoing the budget. Under the City Charter, he could not veto the tax rate set by the council.
Brown said he looks forward to "working closely with City Council" to achieve several goals, including "comprehensive retirement reform solution" through the task force headed by Jacksonville attorney Bill Scheu.
Other goals are business expansion, with a focus on the port and small business and entrepreneurs.
He also listed downtown revitalization, programs assisting members of the military and veterans, "boosting quality of life by focusing on parks, housing and public-private partnerships," and "enhancing our educational system through support for schools, teachers and families."
If Brown had used his line-item veto authority, a majority vote by the City Council would have overriden a veto.


Read more at Jacksonville.com: http://jacksonville.com/news/metro/2013-09-30/story/mayor-brown-decides-against-using-line-item-veto-budget-approved-city#ixzz2gOprL2jB

[Stephen]

I voted for Mayor Brown and I certainly wish I hadn't but I just could not vote for Hogan..I think he would have been a lot worse..I cannot believe that he would have voted for the Human Rights bill. It would have just been the same old same old.

[Cheshire Cat]

No veto's, the budget is finalized.  Brown returns document "without" his signature.  It will automatically become finalized.  So we have a mayor who was unable to deliver a viable budget which left all the work to the council.  When the work was done, he refused to sign off on it.  My guess is he is hoping to get votes by doing this in the next election.  My observation is that his "no sign" is just another slap at a council he already has little rapport with. 

http://news.wjct.org/post/no-mayoral-vetoes-jacksonvilles-2013-14-budget-finalized#.Ukmy4oBOGRo.facebook

By Kevin Meerschaert   

The budget for the city of Jacksonville has been finalized. Mayor Alvin Brown returned the budget ordinances to the Jacksonville City Council today without his signature, which automatically enacts the legislation.

Brown also declined to use his line-item veto authority, "in order to focus on ways that we can work together to improve the community," he said in a letter to City Council President Bill Gulliford.

In the letter Brown went on to say that with the budget process at an end he looks forward to working with council members to achieve goals related to pension reform, enhancing education, revitalizing downtown and boosting quality of life in the city by focusing on parks, housing, and public-private partnerships.

The city's 2013-'14 budget goes into effect Tuesday.

The council voted to approve the budget on the evening of Sept. 25 following weeks of committee meetings and about seventeen hours of debate.

So be it Mayor Brown who you voted for Cheshire Cat I do believe? Had a pension plan that this city council shot down. So he is playing politics just like John Peyton did and mayors before him. Now I hate the fact that the Meals on Wheels program will loss $181,000 dollars I wish the Mayor would have veto this but he didn't. Mayor Brown good luck with your last two years and remember a lot of people still support you.

What you believe and what is true as usual are two completely different things.  I did not vote for Alvin Brown.  Please do not think this entry means I am interested in a dialog.  Just want to keep the record straight.

Cheshire Cat all you really want is the last word, it makes you feel better. Don't worry CC dialog with you I don't really learn anything new? But do have a good afternoon CC. 

[Cheshire Cat]

I voted for Mayor Brown and I certainly wish I hadn't but I just could not vote for Hogan..I think he would have been a lot worse..I cannot believe that he would have voted for the Human Rights bill. It would have just been the same old same old.

Stephen, Alvin Brown didn't support the human right's bill and in fact got Gaffney to pull his vote at the last minute.  Looks like Alvin delivered a huge portion of same old same old with a side of "in your face" supporters. 

[If_I_Loved_you]

[Stephen]

YAWN...I see what they mean about having to have the last word. I know Mayor Brown {Lets have some respect.he is the mayor} did not support the HR Bill. I am also positive that Hogan wouldn't have either. The same old same old.

[If_I_Loved_you]

adding mysogeny to your repertoire isnt an improvement on something that is sadly in need of it, If I Love You.

Stephendare I don't hate women but know it all's I truly can't stand. This also goes for you King Debater!

[Cheshire Cat]

YAWN...I see what they mean about having to have the last word. I know Mayor Brown {Lets have some respect.he is the mayor} did not support the HR Bill. I am also positive that Hogan wouldn't have either. The same old same old.

Same old what?

You just moved here and had to pose a question on this board insisting we tell you which district you live in rather that finding out that simple information for yourself. I wonder what political history and same old same old you are even talking about. 

+1  See the thing is Apache, if you answer questions posed or share information you risk being called a "Know It All."  lol  I am put in mind of a question from IILU online which I answered and the response was that I wanted the last word. Who knew answering a question posed would be tantamount to having the last word.  Funny, the generational differences in style really do get confused in the case of social media.  Back when conversations were face to face, you know when dinosaurs roamed the earth, much in the way of innuendo was not lost.  Body language, voice intonation and the lot. Smiley's just don't do the job.  There was also this thing from way back when that had to do with speaking with confidence, to the point and respectfully. Also, the thing called "respect" was earned not just levied because of a title.  I know, I know, the dark ages.  lol   Unfortunately some "misinterpret" that as being either condescending or being a know it all.  Since much of my life's work has been ferreting out facts, documentation and background information it is my natural inclination to share what I have learned.  That is what is behind my commentary and has always been along with this crazy idea that conversing is still a worthwhile endeavor in the land of hash tag's and tweets.  Silly me. 

It appears one of our newest community member comes with a lot of opinions about our community and that is okay I believe but at the risk of sounding condescending or being labeled a someone who knows to much, it really does take time to know the ins and outs of a community and perhaps that should be a consideration before declaring we are a backwater swampland. LMAO 

[Stephen]

A lot of time has passed since then so I know that I live in Jim Love's district which is just great and I have been talking to neighbors about politics as well as people at Church.  Maybe you and Diane can go brew a fresh pot of bile

[Cheshire Cat]

A lot of time has passed since then so I know that I live in Jim Love's district which is just great and I have been talking to neighbors about politics as well as people at Church.  Maybe you and Diane can go brew a fresh pot of bile

Ah yes, how to win friends in a new community both on and off line.  Well done.  lol  Now where is that respect you were on about earlier?  Seriously, you do get mighty ugly mighty quick. Definitely new to the south. 

[Cheshire Cat]

A lot of time has passed since then so I know that I live in Jim Love's district which is just great and I have been talking to neighbors about politics as well as people at Church.  Maybe you and Diane can go brew a fresh pot of bile

Ah yes, you asked us which district you live in 59 days ago.

In that time your neighbors and church have informed you that RAP sucks, Jacksonville is backwater due to of a lack of bars, Biscottis and Casbah have way move political pull than John Valentino and Mellow Mushroom, you did vote for Mayor Brown without knowing what district you live in though, nice to have an educated voter. The Sheriff wastes a ton of money. You complain a lot but don't have the time to join any boards.

Oh, and IILY appears to agree with you a lot. Enjoy that.

A lot of time has passed since then so I know that I live in Jim Love's district which is just great and I have been talking to neighbors about politics as well as people at Church.  Maybe you and Diane can go brew a fresh pot of bile

Ah yes, you asked us which district you live on 59 days ago.


Yeah..thats cute, but... doesn't apply at all to my statement..just for shits and giggles are you playing me a Kyrie, eleison or a Gloria?

Don't waste your time Apache.  The comprehension levels are just not there. This is why Stephendare didn't respond to a previous silly snark.   (Now sit back and prepare for incoming) 

[edjax]

Stephen.   Just curious how long you have actually lived here?  You made note in your posts on 8/2/13 twice that you had "just moved" here.  Then I see you say you voted for Mayor Brown.  Of course he was elected mayor well over 2 years prior to you just moving here per your comments on 8/2/13 so just wondering when you actually moved here and began developing your ideas to how backwater we are here.   Or I guess "just moved" could actually have a long tail.  Either way all is good. 

[Cheshire Cat]

Stephen.   Just curious how long you have actually lived here?  You made note in your posts on 8/2/13 twice that you had "just moved" here.  Then I see you say you voted for Mayor Brown.  Of course he was elected mayor well over 2 years prior to you just moving here per your comments on 8/2/13 so just wondering when you actually moved here and began developing your ideas to how backwater we are here.   Or I guess "just moved" could actually have a long tail.  Either way all is good. 

Me thinks we have a troll.  I noticed the same discrepancies.  I really wonder if this is another of IILU's online monikers? lol  That would make at least three.  MJ admins, is there a way to check this?  Just curious cause the trash talk nonsense is distracting from worthwhile conversation.  Thanks.

[Stephen]

I moved here in January of 2011. I live in Avondale. Maybe just moved here is not a fair statement but it seems like I am newly here.