Khan interested in developing shipyards

Started by duvaldude08, June 14, 2013, 01:49:00 PM

jcjohnpaint

This looks a little more realistic than past proposals.  I hope it goes!


benfranklinbof

Ohhhh my, a ferris wheel! I'd ride that thing everyday!
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JayBird

Quote from: stephendare on July 28, 2014, 03:53:31 PM
actually, I'm not a fan of the pedestrian plans for the shipyards properties---and I'm prepared to be proven wrong, but meh..  My reference is to a much smaller, but better for downtown project.

Now my curiosity is really piqued. Especially since most plans regarding that area are very pedestrian-oriented.

But just to be clear, nothing is happening besides some drawings until COJ asks for proposals in the fall right?
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thelakelander

COJ can't just hand the land over to Kuhn. At some point, they'd have to issue a Request for Proposals, allowing other groups a chance to attempt to get the property as well. So in the meantime, we'll get to see pretty pictures of various group's ideas for the land.
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duvaldude08

Quote from: thelakelander on July 28, 2014, 04:18:53 PM
COJ can't just hand the land over to Kuhn. At some point, they'd have to issue a Request for Proposals, allowing other groups a chance to attempt to get the property as well. So in the meantime, we'll get to see pretty pictures of various group's ideas for the land.

Who is Kuhn?  ;D
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pierre

Reading the article in the JBJ, is it possible these designs are nothing more than an overzealous developer wanting to get his plans seen by Shad Khan?

thelakelander

Quote from: duvaldude08 on July 28, 2014, 04:34:57 PM
Quote from: thelakelander on July 28, 2014, 04:18:53 PM
COJ can't just hand the land over to Kuhn. At some point, they'd have to issue a Request for Proposals, allowing other groups a chance to attempt to get the property as well. So in the meantime, we'll get to see pretty pictures of various group's ideas for the land.

Who is Kuhn?  ;D
lol. My bad. Khan.
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KenFSU

Quote from: duvaldude08 on July 28, 2014, 04:34:57 PM
Quote from: thelakelander on July 28, 2014, 04:18:53 PM
COJ can't just hand the land over to Kuhn. At some point, they'd have to issue a Request for Proposals, allowing other groups a chance to attempt to get the property as well. So in the meantime, we'll get to see pretty pictures of various group's ideas for the land.

Who is Kuhn?  ;D

http://www.metrojacksonville.com/forum/index.php?topic=1762.0

Uh-oh.

We're in trouble.

pierre

Quote from: KenFSU on July 28, 2014, 04:44:57 PM
Quote from: duvaldude08 on July 28, 2014, 04:34:57 PM
Quote from: thelakelander on July 28, 2014, 04:18:53 PM
COJ can't just hand the land over to Kuhn. At some point, they'd have to issue a Request for Proposals, allowing other groups a chance to attempt to get the property as well. So in the meantime, we'll get to see pretty pictures of various group's ideas for the land.

Who is Kuhn?  ;D

http://www.metrojacksonville.com/forum/index.php?topic=1762.0

Uh-oh.

We're in trouble.

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Some of the comments in that thread are funny.

Tacachale

Okay, I don't want to rush to judgment before really understanding what these things are supposed to be, but is that really two different football fields and another parking garage? On riverfront property? And I hope those office and/or apartment designs are just too preliminary to include the streetfront retail that any downtown project should include, because otherwise it's a major, major oversight.

Ferris wheel.
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Cheshire Cat

#206
If the city leadership decides that they want Khan to have the shipyards, it will happen regardless of other proposals.  This is like Waste Management and Trail Ridge only bigger.  Make no mistake that Khan not only has the full support of the Mayor on this he already has some on council that you would never imagine would support this development deal firmly in his corner.  Consider this headline from the Jacksonville Daily Record, Brown awaits Shipyards plan from Khan.  What are we going t do next boss?  There is no real consideration at this point to how well designed a proposal Khan is submitting, the city is just looking to get a monkey off of their back.  That monkey is the shipyards.

http://www.jaxdailyrecord.com/showstory.php?Story_id=543520
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river4340

Quote from: pierre on July 28, 2014, 04:37:17 PM
Reading the article in the JBJ, is it possible these designs are nothing more than an overzealous developer wanting to get his plans seen by Shad Khan?

that's the way I read it. there's really no indication that the architect has any relationship, much less a contract, with Khan.

Cheshire Cat

river4340.  This is a design done at the request of Khan and was recently showcased in Orlando as Khan's design.  Notice, it says Khan's plans could include.  By the looks of it this is an initial idea with everything but the kitchen sink thrown in.  My guess is to see what sticks and most resonates with those in the city who will be making the decision on a final Shipyards deal.

QuoteShad Khan's plans for the Shipyards could include office, retail, residential and medical facilities — and perhaps a Ferris wheel, according to plans unveiled at a builders conference in Orlando.

During a presentation at the Southeast Building Conference, Orlando architect Don Evans laid out renderings he said he had designed for Shad Khan, which can be clicked through above.

The plans include office, retail, residential and medical facilities, according to a source at the conference. Representatives with Evans Group said Monday they are "not allowed to discuss the plans" for the property and declined comment.
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edjax

Probably be a good chance that once the RFP goes out he may be the only even submitting a proposal. Or at least the one with the financing to actually pull it off instead of spirals in the sky silly proposals.  While I am sure these are very preliminary at least they appear realistic in scope.