JaxPort's challenge: How to move that new cargo

thelakelander · March 25, 2008, 10:29:33 AM

I'm confused. Sounds like you're now talking about two different things. Are you or are you not talking about putting commercial tolls on MLK Parkway for port users?

thelakelander · March 25, 2008, 10:49:32 AM

So Jacksonville has the only port in the country not charging commercial tolls on public streets?

Why only charge port related businesses? Why stop there? Why not charge every company in town that uses trucks or makes money by driving?

By the way, how much are the commercial tolls at nearby ports like Brunswick, Fernandina Beach and Tampa? Plus, if there is a charge, why would that money go to the port? Shouldn't it go to whoever maintains the public streets?

thelakelander · March 25, 2008, 10:50:20 AM

QuoteBTW. Kevin has invited us to a tour of the ports from his perspective.

I'll take him up on that offer. Sounds interesting.

Ocklawaha · March 25, 2008, 12:20:44 PM

There's a ready made answer for this tax on truckers..."This truck pays $9,000 dollars a year in highway taxes". End of argument. The highway lobby would completely quash any politico that made a coup on that holy cow.

Railroads? Oh yeah, them too... plus special taxes, highway tax, real estate tax, School district assesments, and uh, build and maintain your own steel highway...

It will happen when monkeys fly out of my nether reigons... or was that in 1968?

Ocklawaha

thelakelander · March 25, 2008, 12:29:09 PM

Quote from: thelakelander on March 25, 2008, 10:49:32 AM
So Jacksonville has the only port in the country not charging commercial tolls on public streets?

Why only charge port related businesses? Why stop there? Why not charge every company in town that uses trucks or makes money by driving?

By the way, how much are the commercial tolls at nearby ports like Brunswick, Fernandina Beach and Tampa? Plus, if there is a charge, why would that money go to the port? Shouldn't it go to whoever maintains the public streets?

Stephen, did you ever find out how much the commercial tolls on nearby streets are at these ports and what the money collected is used for?

Ocklawaha · March 25, 2008, 12:42:02 PM

What i'm saying is that both the rail and the truck industry feel they are taxed to the max. Any politician that added another fee would be the target for a massive and well financed smear campaign. Before adding to the carriers charges, they might consider a leap from the top of the Dames Point Bridge.

Did you know that already a carload of bread from San Francisco to Chicago, costs 4 times what the bread is worth? Who do you think pays for it in the end?

Ocklawaha

those with perfect vision take 2 steps back to read this, because I can't see the damn stuff...

thelakelander · March 28, 2008, 01:05:23 PM

Its been mentioned several times in this discussion. The CSX line serving the Northside and Blount Island needs to be purchased by JaxPort, JTA and COJ, along with the rebuilding of the S-Line. This will allow all port terminals to have direct access to three major railroad companies and their railyards (not just CSX), commuter/DMU rail that JTA can schedule without inteferring with private freight railroads and a dedicated source of revenue through leasing the line to a short line operator to serve industries along the route.

This solution takes a ton of trucks off the highways, improves mass transit options, enhances the port's marketability and provides a long term source of income for the city. We'll feature a front page article on this, sometime next week.

reednavy · July 07, 2008, 11:28:23 PM

Matsui's first ship pulled in this evening. I watched it from the office here and good lord is that a huge ship. It took it's sweet old time navigating our winding river. Mayor Peyton actually greeted the ship as it pulled in as well. A new era in JAXPORT officially began today!

Lunican · July 08, 2008, 12:00:07 AM

Here are photos of the MOL Vision which is the ship that came in tonight:

blizz01 · July 08, 2008, 12:05:51 AM

Happy Meal Toys! Are we filling it back up with exports?

Lunican · July 08, 2008, 12:21:23 AM

Here is the route. Apparently it is operated by APL.

reednavy · July 08, 2008, 01:30:10 PM

There was also a rather large red APL ship that came in the afternoon yesterday.

Jason · July 08, 2008, 02:44:10 PM

How long does it take to dock and unload one of those things?

civil42806 · July 17, 2008, 07:54:20 AM

I'm sorry but you lost me with this statement:

"Did you know that already a carload of bread from San Francisco to Chicago, costs 4 times what the bread is worth? Who do you think pays for it in the end?"

If the cost of transport is worth 4 time what the bread is worth, ummmmmmmm what does that mean. Are you saying that the cost of transport is 80% of the cost of the bread? So if the loaf of bread is 1 dollar, 80 cents of the cost is transportation? Sorry but I just don't think thats right.