Mayor Brown the Self Promoter

Started by CityLife, May 31, 2013, 08:51:08 AM


vicupstate

Quote from: CityLife on May 31, 2013, 01:53:05 PM
Quote from: Riverrat on May 31, 2013, 01:42:37 PM
Yes. He self-promotes...he's probably the first to really embrace the concept in Jacksonville politics...but I think it's damn smart. Calm down...there are WAY MORE IMPORTANT things to spend our time on than worrying about the self-promotions of the mayor.  ::)

Calmer than you are Mr. Capital Letters...Calmer than you are. ;)

No its actually not smart to be a self promoter in politics, especially at the local level where everyone can very easily tell if you are doing a good job. Getting things done and being good at your job is all you need to do. What Brown is doing/has done has driven a rift between him and Council, has hurt the morale of staff because they feel they get no credit, and wasted countless hours of his time that could be better served actually doing things.

I don't know about you, but I'd rather have my Mayor working on policy and big picture items, than shaking hands and taking pictures at a 4H function.

+1,000

As for the comparisons to other big-city mayors like Ed Koch and Michael bloomberg, and Rudy Guiliani, they may have promoted themselves, but they also had a solid list of accomplishments to back it up. 

Putting his name on the jazz Festival was inappropriate and tacky.   Accomplishments speak much louder than campaigning.
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carpnter


Jaxson

Quote from: vicupstate on May 31, 2013, 08:31:04 PM
Quote from: CityLife on May 31, 2013, 01:53:05 PM
Quote from: Riverrat on May 31, 2013, 01:42:37 PM
Yes. He self-promotes...he's probably the first to really embrace the concept in Jacksonville politics...but I think it's damn smart. Calm down...there are WAY MORE IMPORTANT things to spend our time on than worrying about the self-promotions of the mayor.  ::)

Calmer than you are Mr. Capital Letters...Calmer than you are. ;)

No its actually not smart to be a self promoter in politics, especially at the local level where everyone can very easily tell if you are doing a good job. Getting things done and being good at your job is all you need to do. What Brown is doing/has done has driven a rift between him and Council, has hurt the morale of staff because they feel they get no credit, and wasted countless hours of his time that could be better served actually doing things.

I don't know about you, but I'd rather have my Mayor working on policy and big picture items, than shaking hands and taking pictures at a 4H function.

+1,000

As for the comparisons to other big-city mayors like Ed Koch and Michael bloomberg, and Rudy Guiliani, they may have promoted themselves, but they also had a solid list of accomplishments to back it up. 

Putting his name on the jazz Festival was inappropriate and tacky.   Accomplishments speak much louder than campaigning.

I agree about building a solid record, but we have not yet seen a Mayor Ray Nagin moment with Mayor Brown.  I think that he has done a yeoman's job of communicating with our residents when we need communications.  It helps a great deal when we are in harm's way (e.g. hurricanes, tropical storms, etc.) and we have the benefit of knowing what is going on.  I give him and his administration high marks for keeping us posted.  If he dropped the ball on this, there would indeed be hell to pay...
John Louis Meeks, Jr.

Tacachale

Ceremonial functions and promotion (of the city, not one's self) are all well and good, but there comes a point when a mayor can spend too much time on that instead of the actual work of the position. It can be a serious problem.
Do you believe that when the blue jay or another bird sings and the body is trembling, that is a signal that people are coming or something important is about to happen?

Steve

So, whether or not you believe that Mayor Brown does too much self promotion, someone needs to teach CM Gulliford about the concept of tact. Outside of Jax Beach and people who are very involved in city government, no one knows this guy, and the TU's article about his feelings on Brown's self promotion are his intro to the Jacksonville public in many ways.

What a way for Gulliford to begin his year-long working relationship with the guy. This should be a heck of a year.

Steve

Oh, and another thing...one weekend removed from images of Jax Beach looking like a violent third world country, and the district council member is in the news accusing Brown of self promotion? More and more in love with this guy by the day.

Tacachale

Gulliford has been working with Brown for two years already. And he's hardly the only one to feel this way.
Do you believe that when the blue jay or another bird sings and the body is trembling, that is a signal that people are coming or something important is about to happen?

MEGATRON

Quote from: Steve on June 01, 2013, 12:25:33 PM
So, whether or not you believe that Mayor Brown does too much self promotion, someone needs to teach CM Gulliford about the concept of tact. Outside of Jax Beach and people who are very involved in city government, no one knows this guy, and the TU's article about his feelings on Brown's self promotion are his intro to the Jacksonville public in many ways.

What a way for Gulliford to begin his year-long working relationship with the guy. This should be a heck of a year.
You have not been paying attention if you don't think Gulliford speaks for most of the council.
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Steve

I'm not talking about the perception of the council, I'm talking about the other 99% of Jacksonville who isn't engaged or on a site like this. Have I heard this from other council members? Absolutely. However none of the other 18 have a lead article about them and the other 18 aren't coming in to the council president's office.

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CityLife

Fantastic piece from Jim Bailey of the Daily Record that touches on this subject

http://www.jaxdailyrecord.com/showstory.php?Story_id=539694