Hurston Flower Shop demolished.

Started by sheclown, April 19, 2013, 06:22:34 PM

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sheclown

#30
April 22, 2013, 06:03:35 PM
Hooray!!!

What great research Ennis.

Joel is bringing this to the HPC.

Cheshire Cat

#31
April 22, 2013, 06:23:52 PM
Gloria, do you have a feel for those on the current council that you think may be supporters of preservation?
Diane Melendez
We're all mad here!

Tacachale

#32
April 22, 2013, 07:54:08 PM
Ennis, this would be a great topic for an article. I have some background material for Hurston and I'd be happy to help with that. Though so far as I know it doesn't have anything on specific houses, especially if the street numbers have changed.
Do you believe that when the blue jay or another bird sings and the body is trembling, that is a signal that people are coming or something important is about to happen?

sheclown

#33
April 22, 2013, 08:05:26 PM
Quote from: Cheshire Cat on April 22, 2013, 06:23:52 PM
Gloria, do you have a feel for those on the current council that you think may be supporters of preservation?

Lumb is the first to come to mind.  He helped stop the demolition of houses in Springfield

thelakelander

#34
April 22, 2013, 08:09:18 PM
Quote from: Tacachale on April 22, 2013, 07:54:08 PM
Ennis, this would be a great topic for an article. I have some background material for Hurston and I'd be happy to help with that. Though so far as I know it doesn't have anything on specific houses, especially if the street numbers have changed.

^Yes, it would.  I'm just waiting for the next HPC meeting to hear what Joel has to say.

Quote from: sheclown on April 22, 2013, 08:05:26 PM
Quote from: Cheshire Cat on April 22, 2013, 06:23:52 PM
Gloria, do you have a feel for those on the current council that you think may be supporters of preservation?

Lumb is the first to come to mind.  He helped stop the demolition of houses in Springfield

It appears someone is still living in this house.  Is it in danger of being demolished?
"A man who views the world the same at 50 as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life." - Muhammad Ali

iloveionia

#35
April 22, 2013, 10:38:22 PM
The question is WHY was the flower shop demolished?  Owner request?  MCCD?  Why and by who? I requested the case recap from Code.  The report will provide some answers.

That said, BIG problem.

The flower shop WAS owned by a church "7th Calvalry" who lost it to taxes.  The LLC that bought from Duval County is "Tax Certificates Redemptions Inc." out of Miami, they have NOT paid any property taxes since acquiring the shop 6 years ago.  They own 48 properties, some empty lots, others houses all aquired 2007/2008.  On quick search, they have back taxes and multiple liens on their properties.  The properties are scattered throughout the urban core. 

They appear to be like Tarpon: a ruse that is a cancer.   

civil42806

#36
April 22, 2013, 11:16:41 PM
With all do respect, I remember this place from years ago.  Was a very nice place.  Have to ask can  anyone downtown maintain thier property.  Seems to be a trend here.

sheclown

#37
April 23, 2013, 06:54:54 AM
The answer to this problem is one that we all know.

The city takes neglected and abandoned properties.

Of course, the problem with this is that the city neglects and abandons its own properties.

The citizens need to get involved in this process, make sure the council people they elect share their desire for a vibrant urban core and then support ordinances which make funding available.

sheclown

#38
April 23, 2013, 10:58:46 AM
The street numbers changed (just like Springfield).  The house next door to the flower shop is the house that John C Hurston and his wife lived for many years.  The flower shop was next door.  Their home is still standing.  The original address was 1663.  It is in fact now addressed as 1473 Evergreen Ave and it is still a lived in and apparently loved home.

sheclown

#39
April 24, 2013, 04:03:51 PM
At hpc now. Te commissioners have instructed the historic planners to investigate this as a possible landmark

Tacachale

#40
April 24, 2013, 04:59:00 PM
Thanks sheclown. That thing should be a landmark if anything is.
Do you believe that when the blue jay or another bird sings and the body is trembling, that is a signal that people are coming or something important is about to happen?

Cheshire Cat

#42
April 24, 2013, 07:02:09 PM
Great news.  I see this happening.  Thanks for the update Gloria.
Diane Melendez
We're all mad here!

thelakelander

#43
April 24, 2013, 09:06:18 PM
Quote from: sheclown on April 23, 2013, 10:58:46 AM
The street numbers changed (just like Springfield).

The same goes for Durkeeville.  It appears that all the east/west streets north of downtown were changed to a numbered system around the same time.  It just happens that all the different subdivision plats over the city's early years were grid based, making such a uniform conversion possible.
"A man who views the world the same at 50 as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life." - Muhammad Ali

sheclown

#44
May 26, 2013, 08:20:27 AM
On May 22, 2013, the HPC determined the staff application for landmark status for the remaining structure was complete and ready to move forward on its journey toward landmark status.  It is given to city council to make the final determination.




The residence at 1473 Evergreen Avenue has significance for its association with Zora Neale Hurston.  The building was the domicile of the brother and sister-in-law of Hurston and it has been documented that she resided there on and off over several years between 1920 and 1940.

from the application documentation.




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