Senator files legislation to kick buses off public streets

Started by thelakelander, March 04, 2013, 11:53:04 AM

thelakelander

Wow....

QuoteSenator Alan Hays has filed Senate Bill 158, which seeks to prohibit buses from stopping on public streets.

The complete bill is one single paragraph:

“Notwithstanding any other law to the contrary, a bus, other than a school bus, may not be stopped in such a manner so as to impede, block, or otherwise restrict the progression of traffic on the main traveled portion of a roadway while the bus is loading or discharging passengers if another reasonable means is available to safely load or discharge passengers.”

As Orlando Sentinel columnist Lauren Ritchie tells it, Hays is bent out of shape after driving on Bay Street in Eustis behind a LakeXpress public bus when it pulled toward the side of the road to pick up and discharge passengers. But the bus wasn’t completely off the road, and Hays couldn’t go around it.

As a result of this episode, the head of the county’s bus service and the director of transportation planning for the region were summoned to Hays’ office. The pair said Hays was blustering and visibly angry as he told this story to illustrate his desire to keep transit buses from stopping on roads to let passengers on and off.

The two public transportation advocates figured the senator was just blowing off some frustration.

But, no.

“He was very agitated, so I just listened,” said Dottie Keedy, Lake County’s director of community services, which operates the public transit system. “He said he wasn’t going to take it anymore, and if I didn’t do something, he would.”

Hence SB 158.

full article: http://www.saintpetersblog.com/senator-alan-hays-does-not-want-buses-stopping-in-streets
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Quote from: thelakelander on March 04, 2013, 11:53:04 AM
Wow....

QuoteSenator Alan Hays has filed Senate Bill 158, which seeks to prohibit buses from stopping on public streets.

The complete bill is one single paragraph:

“Notwithstanding any other law to the contrary, a bus, other than a school bus, may not be stopped in such a manner so as to impede, block, or otherwise restrict the progression of traffic on the main traveled portion of a roadway while the bus is loading or discharging passengers if another reasonable means is available to safely load or discharge passengers.”

As Orlando Sentinel columnist Lauren Ritchie tells it, Hays is bent out of shape after driving on Bay Street in Eustis behind a LakeXpress public bus when it pulled toward the side of the road to pick up and discharge passengers. But the bus wasn’t completely off the road, and Hays couldn’t go around it.

As a result of this episode, the head of the county’s bus service and the director of transportation planning for the region were summoned to Hays’ office. The pair said Hays was blustering and visibly angry as he told this story to illustrate his desire to keep transit buses from stopping on roads to let passengers on and off.

The two public transportation advocates figured the senator was just blowing off some frustration.

But, no.

“He was very agitated, so I just listened,” said Dottie Keedy, Lake County’s director of community services, which operates the public transit system. “He said he wasn’t going to take it anymore, and if I didn’t do something, he would.”

Hence SB 158.

full article: http://www.saintpetersblog.com/senator-alan-hays-does-not-want-buses-stopping-in-streets
:o Holy Cow what a true fool this senator Alan Hays is.

Cheshire Cat

Oh my goodness, Lord help us all.  Another goofball on the Senate!  Ban buses on the streets from stopping and starting.  I am going to laugh rather than cry.  lol
Diane Melendez
We're all mad here!

Overstreet

So he is using his public office to  conduct  a personal vendetta?

carpnter

While this piece is legislation is going way overboard, bus drivers are some of the most inconsiderate drivers out there.  I cannot tell you how many times some bus turns right on red while I am crossing the intersection, improperly merged into traffic from an on ramp, made an improper lane change, or pulled back out into traffic on a street without even properly signaling all of which required me to slam on my brakes to avoid hitting the bus. 

acme54321

It's not kicking busses off of public roads, just preventing them from stopping in the main travel lanes.  Basically it's forcing the transit peope to provide bus pullouts.  You can't deny that busses stopping all over the road are annoying and can snarl up traffic at busy times.

RiversideLoki

He really hates getting stuck behind the bus more than anyone I've ever met.
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cline

Quotepulled back out into traffic on a street without even properly signaling all of which required me to slam on my brakes to avoid hitting the bus.

By law, you have to allow room for the bus to get back into the flow of traffic.

I read this story the other day.  This guy is an embarrassment.

tufsu1

Quote from: acme54321 on March 05, 2013, 11:07:29 AM
It's not kicking busses off of public roads, just preventing them from stopping in the main travel lanes.  Basically it's forcing the transit peope to provide bus pullouts.  You can't deny that busses stopping all over the road are annoying and can snarl up traffic at busy times.

but here's the problem with bus pull-off lanes....during busy times, how does the bus get back into the traffic flow?

acme54321

Quote from: tufsu1 on March 05, 2013, 11:10:11 AM
Quote from: acme54321 on March 05, 2013, 11:07:29 AM
It's not kicking busses off of public roads, just preventing them from stopping in the main travel lanes.  Basically it's forcing the transit peope to provide bus pullouts.  You can't deny that busses stopping all over the road are annoying and can snarl up traffic at busy times.

but here's the problem with bus pull-off lanes....during busy times, how does the bus get back into the traffic flow?

Look at the post above yours.  It's written on the side of the bus.

Plus, we all know those drivers have no issue with just pulling out into traffic without much care.

simms3

Bothering locals and trolling boards since 2005

Dog Walker

Are they petulant children before we elect them to public office or do they become petulant children because they are in public office?  Inquiring minds want to know!
When all else fails hug the dog.

Lunican

Can't we just make it illegal to ride in a vehicle with 3 or more unrelated people?

Dog Walker

Hey, let's pass a law requiring that all State Senators ride public transportation everywhere!
When all else fails hug the dog.

carpnter

Quote from: cline on March 05, 2013, 11:09:53 AM
Quotepulled back out into traffic on a street without even properly signaling all of which required me to slam on my brakes to avoid hitting the bus.

By law, you have to allow room for the bus to get back into the flow of traffic.

I read this story the other day.  This guy is an embarrassment.

For me to allow room I need to know that the bus is ready to get back into traffic by the driver using the turn signal.  Me allowing room does not mean I have to stop and wait for the bus to complete its loading and unloading when it is not in a travel lane.  I've let plenty of buses back into traffic when they signal they want to merge back into a travel lane.