San Marco Publix project still alive

Started by thelakelander, January 25, 2013, 08:31:03 AM

FlaBoy

Quote from: ProjectMaximus on March 23, 2016, 02:10:06 PM
The Skyway connection will also alleviate parking :D

I just can't imagine the city, JTA, or FDOT ever spending the money on an extension of the Skyway down this far...

Tacachale

Quote from: FlaBoy on March 24, 2016, 05:40:26 PM
Quote from: ProjectMaximus on March 23, 2016, 02:10:06 PM
The Skyway connection will also alleviate parking :D

I just can't imagine the city, JTA, or FDOT ever spending the money on an extension of the Skyway down this far...

It's actually been talked about for a while, both by JTA and the neighborhood. I've heard we might could set up a TIF district where local businesses' taxes would go directly for that kind of thing. It would be pretty cool.
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FlaBoy

Quote from: Tacachale on March 24, 2016, 05:46:17 PM
Quote from: FlaBoy on March 24, 2016, 05:40:26 PM
Quote from: ProjectMaximus on March 23, 2016, 02:10:06 PM
The Skyway connection will also alleviate parking :D

I just can't imagine the city, JTA, or FDOT ever spending the money on an extension of the Skyway down this far...

It's actually been talked about for a while, both by JTA and the neighborhood. I've heard we might could set up a TIF district where local businesses' taxes would go directly for that kind of thing. It would be pretty cool.

It's been talked about but not seriously. They can't even get the money to extend it .1 miles into Brooklyn.

JackJack

I'm excited about the new Publix.  I hope that the businesses in San Marco Square will see a good increase in business and more events scheduled in the square.  If they extend the Skyway (after retro fitting to new cars) were would the line run? from King to Atlantic then up towards the square?  Would there be a station?  I'd like to see the Skyway transformed into something like the Muni street cars in San Francisco.  You don't need a huge station to board, you can present your card or cash when you board.

Steve

^The conceptual design was to have it cross the FEC rail line, then drop essentially at Atlantic Blvd and the FEC line.

ProjectMaximus

Quote from: JackJack on March 25, 2016, 07:32:31 AM
I'm excited about the new Publix.  I hope that the businesses in San Marco Square will see a good increase in business and more events scheduled in the square.  If they extend the Skyway (after retro fitting to new cars) were would the line run? from King to Atlantic then up towards the square?  Would there be a station?  I'd like to see the Skyway transformed into something like the Muni street cars in San Francisco.  You don't need a huge station to board, you can present your card or cash when you board.

Yeah, the logic behind a skyway extension is that anything at-grade wouldnt be able to cross the FEC railroad tracks. So the skyway is the most convenient way to provide a transit connection into that portion of San Marco. As Steve said, the simplest thing would be to bring it down after crossing the rail line (and effectively ending any possibility of extension - unless JTA retrofits the skyway for streetcar) and end it right there at the intersection of the railroad and Atlantic. Huge stations are pretty much needed when you're up in the air...if at-grade then the stop could be as you described. But hopefully in the future when there's passenger rail coming down the FEC tracks there would be a transfer station built right there.

InnerCityPressure

Quote from: MusicMan on March 22, 2016, 05:07:05 PM
"Spotty houses back there?"  I take offense, sir. I own one of those and just put it under contract for $115,000.

If you have the resources, I would rent that place out for the next couple of years and see what's cracking around there.  I reckon you'll pocket an extra $25k plus two years of rent....

Ocklawaha

Quote from: acme54321 on March 22, 2016, 01:48:10 PM
Don't forget about Jackson Square either, I heard rumblings about behind the scenes work regarding that a while back.  I wouldn't be surprised if other big things happen on that stretch of Phillips just south of Atlantic in the coming years.  It's the church, motel 6 and spotty houses back there, should be easy pickings for a developer with some money and they new exit straight to I95 will make it prime real estate.  How about a Brightline station/TOD?  FEC's ROW right there is already like 200' wide since they had a yard there at one point.  They wouldn't have to mess around with the city and the union terminal either.

Better pray there is NEVER a Brightline station in the Southbank. Brightline is a very limited, higher speed, inter-city, passenger operation. They are NOT commuter rail and frankly I even have questions about a St. Augustine stop. Most likely:
Jacksonville
St. Augustine ??
Daytona
Cocoa
Ft. Pierce +/- ??
West Palm
Ft. Lauderdale
Miami 

If the Skyway was extended and when Amtrak joins the AAF/BRIGHTLINE trackage (and they will pending infrastructure completion) then there can be a Southbank intercity stop via Amtrak trains, the BRIGHTLINE trains will blow right through hopefully to JAX TERMINAL/JRTC/PRIME. Toss in JTA with very limited commuter rail service 4-6 daily trips to St. Augustine and your San Marco multimodal Skyway station would be served by:
Amtrak - national intercity
JTA - Skyway
JTA - First Coast Flyer
JTA - commuter Rail