Homeless Center In the Old Armory Building...Brilliant!

Started by CityLife, October 16, 2012, 03:02:43 PM

urbaknight

Why, what would be wrong with that? There are no neighborhoods to speak of in that area so no one would be harassed or panhandled. I don't see a problem.

urbaknight

But naturally there should be a kitchen and lodging. And with plenty of greenspace between highways, they can be provided with farming hoes and other basic equipment in order to grow their own food as well.

If_I_Loved_you

Quote from: urbaknight on October 17, 2012, 01:22:49 PM
Why, what would be wrong with that? There are no neighborhoods to speak of in that area so no one would be harassed or panhandled. I don't see a problem.
The Homeless in any major city always move towards the downtown. Why? First off they can it's not against the law to be homeless. Not that many want to be homeless sure some have a mental illness and should be in a group home or hospital. But with the new rich free loaders coming into office less and less money is going to the homeless or any missions. Besides even if the Old Armory Building is used you can't force anybody that is homeless to go that's just UnAmerican.

Bill Hoff


MEGATRON

Quote from: If_I_Loved_you on October 17, 2012, 01:31:41 PM
Quote from: urbaknight on October 17, 2012, 01:22:49 PM
Why, what would be wrong with that? There are no neighborhoods to speak of in that area so no one would be harassed or panhandled. I don't see a problem.
The Homeless in any major city always move towards the downtown. Why? First off they can it's not against the law to be homeless. Not that many want to be homeless sure some have a mental illness and should be in a group home or hospital. But with the new rich free loaders coming into office less and less money is going to the homeless or any missions. Besides even if the Old Armory Building is used you can't force anybody that is homeless to go that's just UnAmerican.
This makes no sense.
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If_I_Loved_you

Quote from: MEGATRON on October 17, 2012, 01:36:14 PM
Quote from: If_I_Loved_you on October 17, 2012, 01:31:41 PM
Quote from: urbaknight on October 17, 2012, 01:22:49 PM
Why, what would be wrong with that? There are no neighborhoods to speak of in that area so no one would be harassed or panhandled. I don't see a problem.
The Homeless in any major city always move towards the downtown. Why? First off they can it's not against the law to be homeless. Not that many want to be homeless sure some have a mental illness and should be in a group home or hospital. But with the new rich free loaders coming into office less and less money is going to the homeless or any missions. Besides even if the Old Armory Building is used you can't force anybody that is homeless to go that's just UnAmerican.
This makes no sense.
Which part megatron?

urbaknight

Everyday people that pay their own way should have the right not to have to deal with them.

I understand there are people who are just down on their luck, but they're not the problem. There's help available for them and they do seek it out. I've met a few people like that. They found a way to get back on their feet because they didn't want to be homeless. And so at some point, they pulled themselves out of it, with social support. Some simply just don't want to work or help themselves. And they need to go!

If_I_Loved_you

Quote from: urbaknight on October 17, 2012, 01:42:24 PM
Everyday people that pay their own way should have the right not to have to deal with them.

I understand there are people who are just down on their luck, but they're not the problem. There's help available for them and they do seek it out. I've met a few people like that. They found a way to get back on their feet because they didn't want to be homeless. And so at some point, they pulled themselves out of it, with social support. Some simply just don't want to work or help themselves. And they need to go!
"Some simply just don't want to work or help themselves. And they need to go!" So what do we do with them?

CityLife

Can we keep the thread focused on the topic at hand and not general homelessness? You guys are more than welcome to start your own thread.

If_I_Loved_you

Quote from: CityLife on October 17, 2012, 01:44:50 PM
Can we keep the thread focused on the topic at hand and not general homelessness? You guys are more than welcome to start your own thread.
I feel this is part of the problem? The Old Armory Building is to used for the HOMELESS right? So you feel that this thread is only about the building give me a break! :o

urbaknight

Quote from: If_I_Loved_you on October 17, 2012, 01:44:32 PM
Quote from: urbaknight on October 17, 2012, 01:42:24 PM
Everyday people that pay their own way should have the right not to have to deal with them.

I understand there are people who are just down on their luck, but they're not the problem. There's help available for them and they do seek it out. I've met a few people like that. They found a way to get back on their feet because they didn't want to be homeless. And so at some point, they pulled themselves out of it, with social support. Some simply just don't want to work or help themselves. And they need to go!
"Some simply just don't want to work or help themselves. And they need to go!" So what do we do with them?



What I originally suggested.

If_I_Loved_you

Quote from: urbaknight on October 17, 2012, 01:54:02 PM
Quote from: If_I_Loved_you on October 17, 2012, 01:44:32 PM
Quote from: urbaknight on October 17, 2012, 01:42:24 PM
Everyday people that pay their own way should have the right not to have to deal with them.

I understand there are people who are just down on their luck, but they're not the problem. There's help available for them and they do seek it out. I've met a few people like that. They found a way to get back on their feet because they didn't want to be homeless. And so at some point, they pulled themselves out of it, with social support. Some simply just don't want to work or help themselves. And they need to go!
"Some simply just don't want to work or help themselves. And they need to go!" So what do we do with them?



What I originally suggested.
Good Luck  ;)

KuroiKetsunoHana

the armory makes sense as a location.  it's a sturdy building near downtown, and it isn't in the middle ov the neighbourhood--rather, it's right at the edge and quite easy for anyöne who wants to avoid it to do so.  all the complaints i've read about it boil down to people getting their knickers twisted over the idea that they might see a few more homeless people than usual.
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If_I_Loved_you

Quote from: KuroiKetsunoHana on October 17, 2012, 02:50:17 PM
the armory makes sense as a location.  it's a sturdy building near downtown, and it isn't in the middle ov the neighbourhood--rather, it's right at the edge and quite easy for anyöne who wants to avoid it to do so.  all the complaints i've read about it boil down to people getting their knickers twisted over the idea that they might see a few more homeless people than usual.
Amen!

Gonzo

I just returned from being in Denver last week. I spent the majority of my time there in the urban core. Talk a bout a city that has gotten it right! They have taken what was once a blighted and rundown city center and turned it into a vibrant, active city center with nightlife, restaurants, entertainment, and my favorite, breweries!

If a city like Denver can do it, so can we. It will take smart planning and visionary leadership.

Placing a homeless day shelter near a renewing neighborhood, on an artery that could become a gateway rather than a pass-through is not only a detriment to these ideas, its just plain short-sighted and stupid.
Born cold, wet, and crying; Gonzo has never-the-less risen to the pinnacle of the beer-loving world. You can read his dubious insights at www.JaxBeerGuy.com (click the BLOG link).