Mellow Mushroom Avondale meets the Parking Requirement

[KEGreene1]

According to Mellow Mushroom's website www.igetmellow.com, John Valentino has met the parking requirement (unlike the rest of the Avondale restaurants).  So the question now is: will We Love Avondale, LLC leave it alone or will they come up with another tactic to kill the plan?

[ChriswUfGator]

Who's taking bets on this one?

[ben says]

Oh god, another MM thread....

[Non-RedNeck Westsider]

Who's taking bets on this one?

The odds have to be set at something astronomical - 50/1, 75/1 for this thing to get passed for my to take it.  Otherwise, I'll take 3/1 that they'll be back in review in another 60 days.

[thelakelander]

We'll be sharing RAP's updated position on Mellow Mushroom as the front page article tomorrow. In short, there are some more recommendations for Mellow.

[KEGreene1]

We'll be sharing RAP's updated position on Mellow Mushroom as the front page article tomorrow. In short, there are some more recommendations for Mellow.

Shocking

[Captain Zissou]

We'll be sharing RAP's updated position on Mellow Mushroom as the front page article tomorrow. In short, there are some more recommendations for Mellow.

Let me guess, they want them to bulldoze everything and sell the land to McDonald's?

[ChriswUfGator]

We'll be sharing RAP's updated position on Mellow Mushroom as the front page article tomorrow. In short, there are some more recommendations for Mellow.

In news that surprises absolutely no one...

[Pinky]

We'll be sharing RAP's updated position on Mellow Mushroom as the front page article tomorrow. In short, there are some more recommendations for Mellow.

And with that, we go from sublime to ridiculous...  Its rapidly becoming obvious that RAP and WLA are nothing more than shills for a small group of Avondale restaurant owners who are terrified of Mellow Mushroom kicking their asses.

Disgusting.   

[thelakelander]

Here's the revised September version of the proposed Mellow Mushroom facade:

[mtraininjax]

Here's the revised September version of the proposed Mellow Mushroom facade:

Anything other than the way 'Town/Benham's looks right now, is going to cause a lot of concern, look at it the way Steve and Frank have with their locations, Brick/Bluefish. They could not build a new facade, so why should John be allowed to do so?

I am not saying this is going to be the way it plays out, but everytime John adds something new or tries to get a leg up on another restaurant in Avondale, it brings people back to what Mojo #4 did, with their buildout and expansion of an outside seating area. John's design is bigger and newer, and I can see why the old guard has an issue with it, right or wrong.

This process has got to be draining, both mentally and financially on MM, why not just open up shop in the space and use the space they have available, not making any changes to the facade? I want the MM, and I don't want to see this dragged through another year.

[If_I_Loved_you]

Here's the revised September version of the proposed Mellow Mushroom facade:

Anything other than the way 'Town/Benham's looks right now, is going to cause a lot of concern, look at it the way Steve and Frank have with their locations, Brick/Bluefish. They could not build a new facade, so why should John be allowed to do so?

I am not saying this is going to be the way it plays out, but everytime John adds something new or tries to get a leg up on another restaurant in Avondale, it brings people back to what Mojo #4 did, with their buildout and expansion of an outside seating area. John's design is bigger and newer, and I can see why the old guard has an issue with it, right or wrong.

This process has got to be draining, both mentally and financially on MM, why not just open up shop in the space and use the space they have available, not making any changes to the facade? I want the MM, and I don't want to see this dragged through another year.

"Steve and Frank have with their locations, Brick/Bluefish. They could not build a new facade" Why not the Bluefish could redo his whole building and I bet not have to go through the BS MM has had to do. Why is the Brick and Bluefish so afraid of Mellow Mushroom? For the most part it's a pizza place, is it the bar that has the other Avondale restaurants up in arms. Mtrain you say you want the MM but some how I really can't believe you do?

[Non-RedNeck Westsider]

I'm really hoping the suits at Hooter's are paying attention - Monte's would make an awesome Hooter's.

Not that I even like the place, but I'd like to see WLA fight that one.

[mtraininjax]

Why is the Brick and Bluefish so afraid of Mellow Mushroom? For the most part it's a pizza place, is it the bar that has the other Avondale restaurants up in arms. Mtrain you say you want the MM but some how I really can't believe you do?

I really do want MM, but put yourself in the shoes of the other restaurants. Why should they give MM a competitive advantage of a newer look, newer design, when they had to work within the spaces they had to begin with at their addresses? The newest kid on the block, Mojo's, is already taking business away from each, no matter what they say, and the belief with the restaurants is that Mojo lied about their original design and built something bigger than the original plans. They did take 2 physical shops (3 if you count that one was already 2 shops combined) and consolidate into 1 space.

Think about if you had an established business, played by the rules, and someone on the block had the desire to trump you with new plans for a new design and new neon and new items that you could not have because you played by the rules, you'd be apprehensive as well. Blame Rap, blame WLA, blame me, but the fact that MM wants to do something new, is the driving factor here. Maybe a 7-11 would have been a better deal for that corner? Still might be.....

Again, nothing says MM cannot live within the space at 'town/Benham's right now. They could do as all the other restaurants have done and work within their existing space, or continue down this path and hope for a compromise. I want MM, I still think it will happen, just a question of when.

[Pinky]

Why is the Brick and Bluefish so afraid of Mellow Mushroom? For the most part it's a pizza place, is it the bar that has the other Avondale restaurants up in arms. Mtrain you say you want the MM but some how I really can't believe you do?

I really do want MM, but put yourself in the shoes of the other restaurants. Why should they give MM a competitive advantage of a newer look, newer design, when they had to work within the spaces they had to begin with at their addresses? The newest kid on the block, Mojo's, is already taking business away from each, no matter what they say, and the belief with the restaurants is that Mojo lied about their original design and built something bigger than the original plans. They did take 2 physical shops (3 if you count that one was already 2 shops combined) and consolidate into 1 space.

Think about if you had an established business, played by the rules, and someone on the block had the desire to trump you with new plans for a new design and new neon and new items that you could not have because you played by the rules, you'd be apprehensive as well. Blame Rap, blame WLA, blame me, but the fact that MM wants to do something new, is the driving factor here. Maybe a 7-11 would have been a better deal for that corner? Still might be.....

Again, nothing says MM cannot live within the space at 'town/Benham's right now. They could do as all the other restaurants have done and work within their existing space, or continue down this path and hope for a compromise. I want MM, I still think it will happen, just a question of when.

This is, without a doubt, one of the most absurd posts I've seen on MetroJax.  And that's including Know Growths incomprehensible nonsense...

Why should the existing restaurants have to compete with a newer, nicer restaurant?!?  Uh, because that's life??  If they're concerned about their inability to compete they clearly should step up their game, not remain mediocre and just obstruct a stronger competitor.  And really, The Brick had to "work with their existing space"??!  Wrong.  They gutted that building and completely rebuilt it, including majorly changing the front elevation.  Biscottis expanded into adjacent space as well, completely gutting and revamping the buildings in the process.

Furthermore, might I point out that Mellow Mushrooms original plan *was* to use the existing buildings, but your Avondale buddies forced him to build a new building instead.  For you to now cite that as Mellow having some unfair competitive advantage because of their meddling is ridiculous.  I would suggest that the situation is 100% the opposite of what you contend; that The Brick et al have an enormous competitive advantage in that they didn't have to deal with the parking and other bullshit issues that are being continuously thrown in Valentino's path.